Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Syed Abu Ahmad Akif


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The result was no consensus. Votes are one keep and one delete, with no comments in the last two weeks I don't think a third and generally discouraged relist will change matters. (non-admin closure) Szzuk (talk) 19:40, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Syed Abu Ahmad Akif

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Being a federal secretary in Pakistan is not in itself grounds for notability. While it is one of the highest attainable rank for a civil servant in Pakistan, it’s protocol level is lesser than those of Deputy-secretary in the US.

So the question is whether the person meet basic GNG and are there coverage exists in multiple reliable, independent sources that discuss the person in depth. G'search does produce namecheck type of press coverage (most of which already cited in the BLP) which longstanding practice holds cannot be used to support the notability of the subject. Saqib (talk) 15:27, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep — Invited to the discussion after these pages were watchlisted by me as I helped in un-speedy-ing a bunch of these. Comparing a federal secretary in Pakistan to something in the US would be unfair because of the sheer difference in governmental systems, not that you've got any proof of any equivalency between a US deputy secretary and Pakistani federal secretary. Comparing the role of a federal secretary to its analogous civil service roles in the UK (permanent secretary) and India (secretary to Government of India) would be better and a good amount of those already have their own Wikipedia entries. They qualify WP:NPOL by the virtue of holding a national office and are equivalent to flag officers like generals (India and the UK) and lieutenant generals (Pakistan) in pay and protocol (order of precedence) and WP:NMILITARY allows for articles to be created on officers of a flag officer rank. Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 15:45, 1 September 2018 (UTC); edited 15:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC), 15:56, 1 September 2018 (UTC) and 16:05, 1 September 2018 (UTC).
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:21, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:21, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —AE  ( talk  •  contributions ) 15:34, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  —AE  ( talk  •  contributions ) 02:56, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:03, 14 September 2018 (UTC)


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