Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Syed Imtiaz Ali Naqvi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. None of the arguments for keeping this article contain sufficient evidence that the subject meets Wikipedia's guidelines for inclusion outlined in Notability (academics) and Notability (people). -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Syed Imtiaz Ali Naqvi

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The subject's research has not made significant impact in its scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. The subject neither passes Notability (academics) nor Notability (people). It should be deleted. Justice007 (talk) 06:38, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * There is no valid reason for deletion of this page, because the subject's research contributions are well accepted and rewarded by reputed national and international organizations, all the relevant references are already incorporated. Rida Fatima12 — Preceding undated comment added 10:12, 3 September 2014 (UTC) — Rida Fatima12 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment Search for "Syed Imtiaz Ali" ophthalmology, the result is more precise. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 09:19, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * google hits dont mean a thing what matters are reliably published third party sources which speak for themselves. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  11:59, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment The subject Professor meets the Notability (academics) and Notability (people) criteria as substantiated by reliable sources, some of which are stated here: 1. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award at international level (APAO Award for prevention of blindness in asia pacific region 2010), reference is cited in the article. 2. The person is the Fellow of "College of Physicians and Surgeons Pakistan", which is a internationally prestigious academic institution, reference is cited in the article. 3. The subject professor has held the Chair of "Dean Faculty of Surgery and Allied sciences" from 2009 to 2012, "Director Academics" in 2013 and currently holding the chair of Professor of Ophthalmology at SMBB Medical University Larkana. 4. The subject's research has made significant impact in the field of Ophthalmology. His research articles are published in well recognized Ophthalmic Journals, references are cited in the article. Meeting only one criterion is sufficient according to Notability (academics) to retain this article, however the subject meets most of the criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ophthalmic tutor (talk • contribs) 15:57, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * As the sources that are cited and provided do not establish the notabilty, in the sources, only name of the subject is mentioned, there is no significant article written by independent third party. Recently added source to support award, seems no highly prestigious academic award?. Justice007 (talk) 16:08, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Subject's name shows the proof of the claims made in the article. The award mentioned in the article is highly prestigious, and internationally recognized, the Asia pacific academy of Ophthalmology has more than 13 member countries including Japan and China. The criticism by Justice007 is totally injustice and biased. I think the discussion is fairly clear and should be concluded with keeping this article. Shahnawaz Mugheri 16:38, 3 September 2014 (UTC) — Shahnawaz Mugheri (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * CommentProfessor Syed Imtiaz Ali Naqvi is a noble person and a well known scholar of Pakistan, In Feb 2014 I traveled only to hear and learn from him and was satisfied with his teachings, the topic which I learned from him was "Fundoscopic Examination in patients with chronic hypertension”  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justice005 (talk • contribs) 06:18, 4 September 2014 (UTC)  — Justice005 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment I saw Professor Syed Imtiaz Ali Naqvi's some excellent researches in the form of photographs on Wikipedia some time ago but as I have opened this page they are no more available. Now we have to look for other sources to benefit from his innovations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justice005 (talk • contribs)
 * Comment Subject of the article fulfills the Wikipedia criteria of notability. Don't know why this talk has took so long to conclude?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dur e Najaf Shujaat (talk • contribs) 14:03, 5 September 2014 (UTC)  — Dur e Najaf Shujaat (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment I am feeling honoured to comment on Professor Syed Imtiaz ali Naqvi Esq. He is a well known expert of eye diseases nationally and internationally. I know him from the comments of hundreds of people from Pakistan and other countries who met him, got treatment from him and attended his lectures and scientific meetings. I can only say that Wikipedia is fortunate to contain his name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliraza91056 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 5 September 2014 (UTC)  — Aliraza91056 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * comment when this article is deleted for lack of notability despite the swarm of self admitted COI spi editors, there should be made a general sweep of articles looking for spam references to this guys work that they have been plugging into a gazzillion eye related articles. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:48, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * comment Please look at the request on the page by Wikipedia lovers that citations may be added instead of URLs as URLs may rot. I am helping Wikipedia and responding to the request. Please use sensible language thanks, and by the way it was your request too which I have acknowledged and also thanked you already if you find time to see the history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justice005 (talk • contribs) 06:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Speedily Delete it Searching on internet I found there's no one with this name known. Even if he's a known personality this article should deleted because of really very poor editing and images are not licensed and references are not actually showing the quality which Wikipedia stands for. I think this article shows no importance to be on wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashutosh4422 (talk • contribs) 12:04, 5 September 2014 (UTC)


 * The article is about a researcher and an author of a book on Ophthalmology, he is a notable academician and has held many chairs in various institutions. Not being able to find him on internet is no logical reason to delete this article. This article will help visitors on Wikipedia to benefit from the researches and inventions of the subject, which they are unable to find on other places. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dur e Najaf Shujaat (talk • contribs) 13:45, 5 September 2014 (UTC)  — Dur e Najaf Shujaat (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * delete fails WP:GNG and WP:ACADEMIC and is simply part of a massive promotional campaign. all of the cites are primary sources, no third party notice and none of the items cited is inherently notable. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  11:59, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:56, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:56, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:56, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * keep this article as notability and importance is clearly proved by editors, I will add one suggestion to improve this article by changing the Display title from Syed Imtiaz Ali Naqvi to Syed Imtiaz Ali Shah.Facilitator 14 (talk) 17:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC) — Facilitator 14 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * please point out what "proof" has been provided. all of the sources are primary and none of the primary sources establish an award or whatnot that by itself establishes notability. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  17:38, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete despite the apparent crowdsourcing of support here, I see nothing in the sources that suggests the notability standard has been reached - QuiteUnusual (talk) 13:28, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr  \ talk / 22:00, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Retain This article in itself is a significant source of knowledge from southeast Asia, I have searched the citations, primary and secondary sources incorporated in this article,these are enough and reliable. In my opinion there is no need for further discussion, the article should be retained and kept open for further improvement, if possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samson wright (talk • contribs) 12:33, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep The awards, references and sources cited on this page are reliable and establish Notability criteria of Wikipedia, therefore the tags of deletion consideration may be removed. During my visit of subcontinent in 2007, I participated in the ceremony in which The Professor was decorated with top most Pakistani award Hamilton bailay (talk) 13:24, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * none of the "awards" nor even the organizations that give them are notable and so you are incorrect in asserting that they establish notability. the references are all to primary sources that have an affiliation with the subject and therefore are of zero value in establishing notablity. --  TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  13:30, 20 September 2014 (UTC)


 * There is no any single reliable source that covers the subject's research significantly impacting in its scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as described in wiki rules. Just mentioning the subject's name does not establish the notability. It seems to me there is being imposed voting pratice rather consensus.Justice007 (talk) 04:35, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
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