Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Syracuse University & SUNY-ESF Student Association


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Wizardman 17:39, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Syracuse University &amp; SUNY-ESF Student Association

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Local student government organization. No WP:Reliable Sources. No assertion of WP:Notability. RedShiftPA (talk) 17:42, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of university deletions. &mdash;RedShiftPA (talk) 17:42, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Inherently notable. Wikipedia has no deadline. GreenJoe 18:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Please cite the guideline which states that it is inherently notable simply for existing. --Dhartung | Talk 21:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - a statement with no basis in policy. TerriersFan (talk) 22:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - This is just another "assumption" being played in by the attempted establishment of "WikiProject Student Unions", which is not a WikiProject, does not solve any debates on the notability of student unions at all, does not provide any kind of policy in existence that points SUs are notable, and is another one of those "This is notable because I said so" attempts. Sorry, no offense, but by using the same non-guideline excuse in attempt to outweigh the several guidelines and policies on Wikipedia is... (I'll keep the rest of that sentence to myself...you can pretty much finish the sentence for me.) *sigh*  - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  01:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Clarified Comment "This is an essay; it contains the advice and/or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. It is not a policy or guideline, and editors are not obliged to follow it.".  - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  02:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete: SUs are not inherently notable, and this article specifically lacks notability because it is local in scope and has only trivial mention in reliable sources. There are a few mentions in local Syracuse newspapers, but I don't think that is enough to satisfy WP:ORG.— Noetic  Sage  18:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence of notability outside the SU area, therefore failing WP:ORG for local organizations. SU's are not inherently notable and c/ping the same rationale does not make them so. TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 18:39, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nominator did the exact same thing copying & pasting a rationale. GreenJoe 18:51, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And you're canvassing (among other locations). Point? None of these discussions have or will be clean. Arguments should be made in policy TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 20:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently you're Wikistalking. GreenJoe 20:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope you've just done it on at least two pages that are on my watchlist. I'm sick of these pointless debates that end up with about 1/3 delete, 1/3 no consensus and 1/3 keep. Not a productive use of my time which was why I chose to comment here and not on the other ton listed here: WikiProject Universities/Deletion. I'd rather do contructive work than endless circular arguments that don't get anywhere. TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 21:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This is not Wikistalking. If you review WikiProject Universities/Deletion, you'll see every single AfD, including, but not limited to AfDs you may or may not have participated (in voting keep because of the Wikipedia does not have a deadline thingy).  This page lets you view every single request, every single vote, comment, and result realtime, which does not require a user to stalk your contrib list to make a point.   - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  01:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. References are non-trivial and enough to establish notability. --Eastmain (talk) 19:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - no non-trivial references.--Michael WhiteT&middot;C 21:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - student bodies have to meet WP:ORG. This requires significant secondary sources. This page hasn't them and thus clearly fails notability standards. TerriersFan (talk) 22:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:ORG. Page is a billboard for non-notable alumni of the school to brag. Paddy Simcox (talk) 23:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom & failure of WP:ORG.  - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  01:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. This whole article looks like a copy/paste from the organizations website. Beyond that, there's just not enough to merge. Lovelac 7 03:27, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as we are supposed to do when notability is borderline.DGG (talk) 01:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - lack of media coverage. PhilKnight (talk) 23:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


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