Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/System32 (webcomic)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete.  Kurykh  02:54, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

System32 (webcomic)

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Contested prod. Non-notable webcomic. It's a recently created comic that asserts no notability outside of its own content, and I can't find any sort of secondary sourcing on it. The creator/main editor may also be COI. &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 04:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Even if it is relatively new, you must give it time to gain a large fanbase as is it largely unheard of. The article itself is encyclopedic and is worthy of being kept. BTW, how is its editor/creator a COI? --Salona (talk) 04:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: First, I don't think it's an acceptable argument to say "While it may not be notable now, it might be notable later." Maybe the page can be recreated once it asserts some notability and has been noted by some secondary sources. Also, I'm skeptical of the editor's involvement, as he or she was able to explain the webcomic's format and characters in full on the first edit, and that was with only two comics available. Also, the editor seems to be able to speak to the previous comic's fan base - see this edit and this edit summary. &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 04:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This is because the creator of the article is the creator/editor of the webcomic himself. And also, three segments (what you referred to as "comics") of the first episode are published, not two as per your claim. --Salona (talk) 04:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The creator of the article being the creator of the webcomic is the very definition of WP:COI - it's self-promotion. And there's only two comics listed at the site. &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 04:51, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, that may be so, but there is a third comic, which is published on Wikipedia (it is located within the template in the article) and is located on the official website of the comic even though it may not be visibly published, and here is the URL to the third comic: http://www.system32comics.com/e107_plugins/comic_menu/comics/s1ep3.jpg . I am a fan of the comic myself, though I have no affiliation to the creator/editor whatsoever, and am currently working on promoting the comic. --Salona (talk) 04:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I am rather new to Wikipedia so I hope that this is the proper way to 'discuss'. If not, please edit this comment so it is the right place (please don't delete it). First of all, I reject the claims of COI - the reason I am able to speak to the fan base of the previous comic, ArtificialReality Inc. is because the previous website had a forum. From that forum I gained the emails of many old fans. In addition, the previous Comic (and I apologize, I should have written this in the article) contained the same characters as the current Comic. It's removal and formation into System32 was a plot and setting change, but characters kept consistent. I have saved the 'code' of the page into a Word document so that it will not be fully lost should the article be deleted. Obviously I won't instantly put it right back up, but perhaps I'll remake the page when the comic gains popularity. I also improperly listed the comic as 'Self-Made'. As I am a bit new, I am unsure as how to change this. If somebody would alter it, I would be grateful. I am sorry if my attempt to add to Wikipedia has upset or broken some rules. You have listed the comic as insignificant, but I personally consider no piece of knowledge on any scale insignificant.--Jacques 009 (talk) 06:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


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 * Delete. Doesn't contain any reliable sources to back its self-advertising claims, as well as the WP:COI problem noted above.  Accounting4Taste: talk 05:31, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. A web comic which was created two days ago cannot possibly be notable yet (except in the most extraordinary situations - which this isn't). Zetawoof(&zeta;) 11:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Salona, who argues a good case for deletion despite his/her vote. JuJube (talk) 12:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment How does my argument point toward deletion rather than keep? --Salona (talk) 18:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * See Wildthing's vote below. JuJube (talk) 19:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I think this line from Salona is a perfect reason to delete; "Even if it is relatively new, you must give it time to gain a large fanbase as is it largely unheard of". Largely unheard of? That is a clear sign the webcomic is non-notable. Wildthing61476 (talk) 19:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, largely unheard of webcomic with no reputable sources. --Dragonfiend (talk) 00:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


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