Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/T.J. Maloney


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The result was   keep. Keeper |  76  13:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

T.J. Maloney

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Doesn't meet WP:BIO. There are no independent reliable sources providing significant coverage of this person. I don't consider the .edu sites useful for establishing notability as they aren't truly indepedent. Searches for other sources turned up this in Forbes but even that is only one paragraph about the person, whereas the subject of the article is Lincolnshire Management. Other than that, the only I can only the briefest of mentions. SmartSE (talk) 21:06, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:29, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:29, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the idea that the .edu sites are not useful because "they are not truly independent". That there is a T.J. Maloney Chair of Business Law at Fordham Law School and a Maloney Hall at Boston College or that he is on the Board of Trustees at Boston College and a former Trustee at Fordham, should not be dismissed because the references go back to the schools. These are not fly-by-night operations. Additionally I must point out that the world of private equity is notoriously insular and, if you will, private. Mainstream coverage is extremely limited, focusing only on the largest firms and their top executives. The PrivCap ( a publication that deals exclusively with private equity investments) links attest to Mr. Maloney's reputation within the private equity world,  a realm that is taking on increasing importance as it continues to grow: Financial News, February 2013.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buttsco (talk • contribs) 14:41, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. People who manage to slap their names onto public buildings probably ought to be presumed to be notable, even if they don't seek publicity in other ways. Regardless, I've managed to find some additional coverage that I think helps to establish notability: Business Week, Forbes article about lawsuit against Maloney, Forbes profile. --Orlady (talk) 19:47, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd already found those sources, but do you really think they are sufficient? Shouldn't we expect some actual articles about him? And since when do we presume people to be notable? Anyone with enough cash can get a building named after themselves at a university, but that doesn't make them automatically notable. SmartSE (talk) 16:39, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Granted, this guy hasn't yet been the subject of a book-length biography and I've not yet seen a major biographical piece in a periodical, but I contend that there are multiple independent sources that establish general notability, and making a lot of money and giving it to institutions in order to get one's name on a building could be considered a "widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record". But rather than parse the notability guideline, let's look beyond the notability guideline and consider the policies on which it is based. WP:NOT asks us to consider whether the topic is one that belongs in an encyclopedia. People whose names are emblazoned on university buildings are people that a person might reasonably expect to look up in an encyclopedia, although not all such people will have entries. Now consider WP:V and ask whether there is sufficient reliable published content on which to base an article. Start with BusinessWeek and Forbes; both are well-respected business publications (i.e., reliable sources -- and independent of the subject); both have seen fit to publish biographical profiles of Maloney (in fact, there are different versions of the profile in different areas of their websites). That's a good start toward an article. Next, look at news items in the business press: this article includes a short interview focused on his business specialty (not human interest fluff) and this article tells about a lawsuit naming him as a defendant for a major impropriety; it includes some biographical details. (BTW, the lawsuit apparently is still in court.) Those pieces also are independent and provide additional material. Those kinds of sources often are sparse on biographical details, but the profiles written by the colleges and universities that are beholden to him (not really independent, but not self-published, either) are acceptable sources for most of that kind of information (particularly and ). Add it all up, and throw in his profile on his company website for good measure, and you have a reasonably well verified article. --Orlady (talk) 05:08, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability not established. Being slapped on a building does not infer notability to a Wikipedia standard. Delete now, edit later per WP:NRSNVNA DavidTTTaylor (talk) 13:36, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 15:33, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. The sources cited don't provide significant in-depth coverage, so notability is not demonstrated. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 18:40, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: WP:N does not require that each individual source (or even any individual source) provides significant in-depth coverage. Rather, it requires that "Sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content." That test is met in this article. Note that the guideline says "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material." Furthermore, this article in the Boston College student paper probably qualifies as "significant in-depth coverage". --Orlady (talk) 19:52, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Significant in depth coverage is not required, just significant coverage, which is best understood as something more than a mere mention in a list. "in detail" was probably a bad choice of words for the guideline, but I understand that as meaning "in sufficient detail to provide information showing notability and providing information in an article."  I think the necessary coverage is shown. OIIn any case, though it is not a formal criterion, being the namesake of a major public building or university chair is an indication of being considered notable by the university. (or at least, being rich enough to make the donation, which normally requires significant activity that would make someone notable ).  DGG ( talk ) 02:45, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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