Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TV Guide and TV Land's List of the 100 Most Unexpected TV Moments


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 00:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

TV Guide and TV Land's List of the 100 Most Unexpected TV Moments
This list is in its current form (full list, "official TV Land and TV Guide descriptions that were given in the press release") quite blatant coyright infringement. Unless it is pared down to acceptable fair use excerpts and rewritten in our own words it needs to be deleted. There seems to be some common but erroneous belief among list makers that lists are not copyrighted. ~ trialsanderrors 10:41, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as copyvio. David Mestel(Talk) 11:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Copyright violation. Hello32020 11:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Copyvio is a no-no. Speedy Delete. --JaimeLesMaths (talk 12:07, 21 October 2006 (UTC) Changing vote to just plain old delete, in that case. The information is interesting, but the list is just one (granted, very notable) group's opinion. Also, WP:NOT seems to cover this case. Since all the shows listed have their own articles (and, for some, the listed episode has its own article), the information can be put into each of those articles individually. That would seem to be a more relevant way to present the information, anyway. --JaimeLesMaths (talk!edits) 05:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually we can't speedy since it has an edit history, i.e. not just copied-and-pasted from another website. Also since it's undergone significant editing I wanted to give the editors a chance to create an encyclopedic, non-copyvio article on the subject (if the subject itself is deemed encyclopedic). ~ trialsanderrors 17:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. The list itself is copyrighted and should not be reposted here, and the subject is not itself encyclopedic. The proper place for this information is on TV Guide or TV Land's own web sites, not Wikipedia or any related project. --Metropolitan90 23:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Hundreds of spammy websites link to this article. The purpose is unclear, but the article itself might be a vehicle for spam.-- Hús  ö  nd  00:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment There is also 50 Greatest Game Shows of All Time (TV Guide), TV Guide's 50 Greatest TV Shows of All Time, and TV Guide's List of the 50 Worst TV Shows of All Time. I am not nominating these for deletion at this point. Tinlinkin 19:32, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * How can you have a list of most unexpected TV moments that doesn't include the Challenger disaster or the Budd Dwyer suicide? Nothing against the creators of this article; I'm just saying that this list wouldn't be especially useful if someone actually were looking for a such a list.  It adds nothing of value to the encyclopedia, is a copyvio, and apparantly is acting as a spam/SEO magnet of some sort.  I guess that makes it a delete.  ergot 00:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * TV Guide seems to have chosen events from regular series and expected televised events. It is in these programs that something was unexpected. Challenger and Budd Dwyer's suicide are more likely classified as news events in the TV realm, so those were unexpected, but not part of a regular TV event. Tinlinkin 05:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.