Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ta-Lo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Features of the Marvel Universe. TigerShark (talk) 22:08, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Ta-Lo

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Fictional realm that is essentially a minor character in a very few comic books. This is not Gondor or Wakanda. You'll notice most of the article is in-universe, and the only reference that's not in-universe is one comic book fan site. A heavily modified version was a minor element in a comic book film, but we have a link for that one already, Ta Lo. Fails WP:FICT, but that's only an essay; more importantly, fails WP:GNG - no unrelated reliable sources write indepth about this. --GRuban (talk) 19:13, 24 June 2022 (UTC) GRuban (talk) 19:11, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:53, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 20:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Redirect to Features_of_the_Marvel_Cinematic_Universe.. (Bustle.com) is a plot summary of dubious reliability. The relevance of an ancient (1847) dissertation is dubious (WP:OR). My BEFORE yielded nothing substantial (ping me if someone does find sources they think are better and would like me to review them). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  14:27, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The entry was created for a reason, Ta-Lo being back in the Shang-Chi series by writer Gene Luen Yang, he was inspired by the movie, a redirect to the Cinematic version would not be correct, even the spellings are different (although Luen Yang used Ta Lo as in the movie). Hyju (talk) 14:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: Hyju (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. InfiniteNexus (talk) 15:18, 25 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Features of the Marvel Universe – Based on sources online, the film adaptation does appear to be more notable than the comics version, and I agree with the nominator's concerns with the in-universe nature of this article. However, it would be more appropriate to redirect to the comics location rather than the film location, which already has a redirect (Ta-Lo). If the page creator can find RS's discussing real-world aspects of Ta-Lo that demonstrate notability, I may reconsider my vote. InfiniteNexus (talk) 15:18, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * comment was there a prior deletion of a Ta Lo article? The obvious solution would be a merge to that, but all that is there now is a redirect (despite several links to it as a “main page”. Artw (talk) 18:53, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The MCU version of Ta Lo is not notable for its own article, and there was never a standalone article for that (nor a deletion). InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:24, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Keep or redirect? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:31, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as primary article for Ta-Lo and Ta Lo. Any notability issues seem to be an artifact of trying to split it between the two, but really they are one subject. Artw (talk) 20:09, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as primary article for Ta-Lo and Ta Lo. Significant pop-culture significance to members of the Asian diaspora, both in its original comic form and later feature film adaptation. Repeated efforts to delete on notability grounds an unfortunate symptom of Racial bias on Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.133.6.200 (talk) 23:45, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Redirect to Features_of_the_Marvel_Cinematic_Universe - Not a great solution, but probably the best that can done. The current article is not suitable for a standalone article due to the lack of sources, and I agree that the film version is at this point more notable than the comic version it was based on - even the Bustle article, which is one of the only non-primary sources being used here, is talking about the MCU version. Neither of the Keep arguments actually address the notability issues and lack of sources, and merely assert that it is notable. Rorshacma (talk) 06:18, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.