Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Table manners in North America


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. (non-admin closure) WJ94 (talk) 08:53, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Table manners in North America

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I am proposing this page for deletion for the following main reason: the page is not about the thing that it claims to be about. In fact it is about the History of table manners in North America and is heavily slanted towards the etiquette inherited from Europe. It does not even (as far as I can tell) acknowledge that Other People Exist and that people in North America who do not share a European heritage have very different norms.

In terms of policy, I'm arguing that WP:NOTESSAY applies and that it is essentially impossible to write a page on this subject without a large dose of WP:OR and bias. I accept sources exist. I accept on that basis the topic is notable and noted. But this page has not been substantially edited for many years, has displayed bias for many years and has asserted that something extremely complicated (ie eating norms within a highly multicultural society) are relatively simple (ie the norms inherited from Europe are the basis for etiquette for everyone there). I can't see how this can be overcome. JMWt (talk) 07:27, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. JMWt (talk) 07:27, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Just a quick keep and comment: the article does provide references, I think a review and perhaps pruning is in order, but not deletion. I refer humbly to table manners for consideration and juxtaposition. --Ouro (blah blah) 10:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep as the subject is clearly notable. I'm sympathetic to the idea of addressing imbalance, but I can't see how we're ever going to end up with an article covering social norms of eating in a wide range of cultures if we simply delete the article because it's unbalanced. That leaves no incentive for anyone ever to correct it. And there is no deadline. Elemimele (talk) 18:11, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep The current state of the article is not a valid WP:DELREASON. As said above, there is WP:NODEADLINE. The article is reasonably sourced and can be salvaged with editing as an alternative to deletion. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 18:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep The editor's talk page identifies them as a 2018 WikiEd Student Editor at Everett Community College. This was the editor's one and only Wikipedia creation.  Given that, the subject matter was likely classroom-assigned, and makes more sense. — Maile  (talk) 04:07, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP Lightburst (talk) 01:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.