Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tadeu Jungle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 00:36, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Tadeu Jungle

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Does not seem notable enough for stand alone article. Delete or merge with more famous wife Estela Renner per guidelines on family. Legacypac (talk) 08:08, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete (a redirect seems unnecessary). Although Jungle has apparently directed a "feature film" and a documentary (which is certainly not enough in itself for a Wikipedia article), coverage of him (rather than his films) is lacking in any reliable sources – he doesn't pass either WP:ENTERTAINER or WP:DIRECTOR.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  08:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Question: Tadeu Jungle is culturally relevant in Brazil, and there are several sources in portuguese. Could those be used as a source in en.wikipedia? Bruno Decc (talk) 14:07, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep —  Sources for articles do not have to be in the same language as the article. I use Portuguese sources for English articles all the time. This subject could meet the notability criteria if you were to incorporate a few of the academic references that you list below—or news articles from Folha de S.Paulo or a newspaper of similar stature. Also, new editors on Wikipedia face a lot of scrutiny, so don’t feel bad. There is just a lot to learn about how things work here—I’m still figuring out a lot myself. I would refer to WP:CREATIVE as my guide. Força, amigo! — giso6150 (talk) 14:42, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Question 2: Would an IMDB page be considered valid as source? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1919975/. It would entail his production as director perhaps. Bruno Decc (talk) 14:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Portuguese sources can definitely be used for en.wikipedia. IMDB is a bit trickier – there is a guideline that says other sources should be used instead. IMDB lists everything from massive Hollywood blockbusters to low-budget amateur productions. Have the films Tadeu Jungle directed been low-budget or screened only at festivals, or did they have a wider release, like at cinemas or any a major TV channel? If his work is quite popular or well-known in Brazil, I'd definitely be happy to reconsider my post above. An article on Jungle in a magazine or major newspaper (English, Portuguese, or any other language) would also be a good source.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  14:56, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
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 * Okay, thanks for the feedback! I was doing a research on Jungle and realised he still had no Wiki page in portuguese or english. This is my first time submitting content to Wikipedia.

Jungle was very relevant in early video production in Brazil, back in the 1980's. Now he had some wider release in audiovisual work with Tomorrow Never Again (Amanhã Nunca Mais). It was distributed by Fox Flmes (website: http://www.foxfilm.com.br/dvd/amanh_nunca_mais-2558/2558/)

These would be the sources:

Mentioned at the following academic works:

1)MACHADO, Arlindo (org.) Made In Brasil: três décadas de vídeo brasileiro. Editora Iluminuras LTDA, 2007, São Paulo. ISBN 978-85-7321-271-6

2) MELLO, Christine. Vídeo no Brasil 1950-1980: novos circuitos para a arte. in: Vol.1: Identidades Periféricas, dezembro de 2009. Arte y Políticas de Identidad - Revista de Investigación. p. 151. ISSN: 1889-8452; http://revistas.um.es/api/issue/view/7721

3) KHOURI, Omar. Revista na era pós-verso: revistas experimentais e edições autônomas de poemas no Brasil, dos anos 70 aos 90. Ateliê Editorial, 2004, Cotia - SP. ISBN: 85-7480-222-0

Newspaper article - CASSIANO ELEK MACHADO (July 30th 1997). Tadeu Jungle expõe arte de uma frase só.

Newspaper article - RICARDO CALIL (November 11th 2011). Amanhã Nunca Mais mostra embate entre o protagonista e a cidade

Newspaper article - CARLOS HELÍ DE ALMEIDA (July 16 2013). "Tadeu Jungle está entre nós"

Newspaper article - GUILHERME SCARPA (December 26th, 2014). Ex-pichador,Tadeu Jungle lança livro sobre os 30 anos de carreira Bruno Decc (talk) 18:47, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Keep - the media article listed above are either about him or review his works. These represent multiple independent sources that establish notability and simply need to be added to the article. I don;t speak Portuguese, but the google translation isn't too bad for getting the gist of the articles. -- Whpq (talk) 20:51, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 12:17, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Archiveurls of the sources provided by Bruno Decc: 1, 2, 3, and 4. The first and third sources provide significant coverage of the subject, so the subject passes Notability. Cunard (talk) 00:13, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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