Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taffy jones


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was : Nomination withdrawn; discussion whether and how the article should be merged with Herbert Jones (footballer) may continue at the article's talk page. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 20:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Taffy jones

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No references, I wasn't able to find anything relevant using Google - possible hoax. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 22:01, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete: looks like a hoax to me, especially the bit about losing a testicle in a tackle! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jofakēt (talk • contribs) 22:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep . It's not a hoax, here's a reference: .  I'm not surprised google doesn't know much about someone from so long ago, though.-- S Marshall   Talk / Cont  22:14, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I forgot to add that the bit about Dixie Dean's testicle doesn't belong there. It's already adequately covered, with references, under Dixie Dean.  I'll edit the article accordingly.-- S Marshall   Talk / Cont  22:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Subsequent comment I fixed various other issues, so the article is now substantially different from its state when nominated for deletion. There's plenty more to be done, though.-- S Marshall   Talk / Cont  22:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep After Marshall's edits, this article seems fit for wikipedia, notable and referenced. ¨¨ victor   falk  05:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 10:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 10:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Retain History records him and passes footballer notability criteria-- Club Oranje Talk 11:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Good improvements Marshall.  LinguistAtLarge &bull; Msg  19:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - i know all the facts to be tue here, as he was my great grand farther and have seen (vidoes of) him playing, as a school project i asked blackburn rovers for help reaserching him and they had record then so i know him to have been at the club at that time and this with the sources... NOTE: i have a vested interest in the articule, for two reasons 1 he is my great grand farther 2 i created the article. 5M1L3-1T5-C00K13.M0N5T3R (talk) 21:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge to existing better-quality article on the same guy, which uses his correct (according to The Association of Football Statisticians) first name -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment -- oh, that's new information. I agree a merge needs to take place (either Herbert Jones to Albert "Taffy" Jones or vice versa) but we need to be sure what his actual name was first, so we get it right!  I'll see if I can dig anything up.-- S Marshall   Talk / Cont  00:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Subsequent comment -- There was a census in 1911, which is available online here: . Jones would've been fifteen.  According to that census, the search term "Albert Jones" in "Blackpool" returns exactly one result of a fifteen-year-old and "Herbert Jones" in "Blackpool" returns none.  (There was a "Herbert Jones" but he was 14.)  This together with the fact that his great-grandson believes him to have been called "Albert" suggests to me that we need to merge Herbert into Albert and not the other way around.-- S Marshall   Talk / Cont  00:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The 1911 census was held in April 1911, so our subject would in fact have only been 14, so that points to his name actually being Herbert. The Association of Football Statisticians and the Football Association's databases both list him as Herbert, as presumably does the book listed as a source on the other article.  That's multiple sources for his name having been Herbert, whereas all Ghits under the Albert version seem to be mirrors of the one piece on the Blackpool F.C. website...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge if Herbert Jones (footballer) and Taffy jones are the same player. DeMoN  2009  11:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep and Merge Herbert Jones (footballer) to this article. Recommendation revised in the light of User:ChrisTheDude's information.-- S Marshall   Talk / Cont  12:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.