Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taiwan (country)

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete w/o redirect. - Mailer Diablo 07:28, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Taiwan (country)
Also created by 160.39.195.88, essentially duplicating Taiwan. In addition to duplication, this article title is inherently POV, violates Naming conventions (Chinese), and was created in a disruptive manner without community consensus. --MarkSweep 03:23, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete this one and the one above it dealing with the ROC Before 1949. It feels like the user who made those pages put his/her POV in them, and I will not be surprised if more from this person comes out from the woodwork. Zscout370 04:00, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Comment Haha, did you just call me a rodent/termite/ant? I do apologize for creating these articles.  The idea was that no one would go to these articles except people that were interested in it and that they could be improved in a community way to the point that people could decide between the new article organization or the old one.  I do not think people will be able to make an informed decision until they see what the new articles would look like.  Is there a place to do this?  I'm not suggesting a permanent state of dueling articles but a "farm" area.  Also regarding POV of title--not true.  I am using country to distinguish it as the land controlled by the ROC, which is the state, meaning government and political community.  You must consider that the current status of the Taiwan article as Taiwan Island is a bit ridiculous as it matches no Chinese or English usage.  There needs to be a place to talk about the lands/people/culture of the ROC.  This is the motivation, not POV.

You might be thrown off because the de jure status of Taiwan as an independent state is questionable. But today it is independent. So I guess redirect for now until people understand this and there is consensus to improve the article.--160.39.195.88 02:37, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Taiwan. Jonathunder 04:11, 2005 Mar 26 (UTC)
 * Delete, POV fork, inherently POV article title. Do not redirect. &mdash;Korath (Talk) 04:18, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I understand your argument to not keep this as a separate article.  What is your opposition to "redirect"?  It seems to me that a redirect would discourage the recreation of future forks.  No vote yet.  Rossami (talk) 05:55, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Naming conventions (Chinese). Further, this article title won't be searched for or linked to, so a redirect is of little practical use. &mdash;Korath (Talk) 06:13, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Naming conventions apply to the main article title. Much looser standards are allowed for redirects.  Redirect to discourage recreation.  (No opinion on whether history should be preserved or deleted.)  Rossami (talk) 00:23, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as duplicate article, contrary to Wikipedia policy. -- Curps 12:12, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and Redirect to Republic of China. Prefer redirect since i dont believe naming conventions apply to redirect, but also find just deleting acceptable--Jiang 14:57, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to Republic of China. &mdash; Instantnood 16:43, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. POV fork. Jayjg (talk) 11:03, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, POV fork. No redirect. Megan1967 04:15, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Duplicate. A weak argument could be made for a redirect.  But seriously, anyone likely to be looking up Taiwan (country) is going to figure out to search for Taiwan, and I think most people, regardless of their opinion on the political status of Taiwan, would search simply under Taiwan first. -- Glen Finney 20:42, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, unnecessary POV fork. No redirect. Binadot 19:33, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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