Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Takayoshi Tanimoto


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Erik9 (talk) 18:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Takayoshi Tanimoto

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Unnotable vocalist. While appears to meet #10 of WP:MUSIC in that he has performed a few theme songs for some anime series, these are all fairly unnotable songs and there are no reliable sources about this person to meet WP:BLP standards beyond being able to confirm a list of work. He fails WP:ENTERTAINER (which seems to conflict with WP:MUSIC) and WP:N. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 20:48, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. User:Collectonian graciously brought this to AfD after I disagreed with her about the appropriate qualifications of #10 of WP:MUSIC.  I can't decide if being the vocalist on three or four different themes from anime is sufficient to meet that criterion so I will leave it to the community to inform me.  I agree that there are no reliable sources present in the article and I am unable to assess the Japanese ones for reliability.  Accounting4Taste: talk 21:12, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - the articles don't meet WP:V and it is unlikely they will anytime in the future. They are about trivial items to the series. 陣 内 Jinnai 06:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - No opinion. But would like to point out: Google News search on "谷本 貴義" shows mentions in Mainichi Shimbun, Yomiuri Shimbun, etc. And for verifiability, Here is a listing of works in a database. Dekkappai (talk) 13:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a lot more themes than are listed in the article -- which strongly suggests that judging notability purely based on the article's contents is not the best thing to do. What are the newspaper mentions about? —Quasirandom (talk) 14:07, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Oricon hits list for his name search. Verification for "Yeah! Break! Care! Break!" and peak rank 23 on Oricon singles chart. I won't do further investigation because i'm mentally tired of the BLP Afds i joined in. --KrebMarkt 16:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The subject is outside my area of interest and knowledge, and my Japanese is pretty shaky, but, as I make it out:
 * The Mainichi article is about a new TV series (as of March 2008) called "炎神戦隊ゴーオンジャー" Engine Sentai Go-onger, and mentions that Tanimoto sings a theme song. ("主題歌は新人歌手の高橋秀幸さん、「獣拳戦隊ゲキレンジャー」の主題歌を歌った谷本貴義さん、「魔法戦隊マジレンジャー」のSisterMAYOさんらのユニット「Project.R（プロジェクト・ドットアール）」が歌い、「1、2、3、4、ゴーオンジャー！」というフレーズが印象的な明るい楽曲. ").
 * The Yomiuri article mentions a musical event for staff, with Psychic Lover and Tanimoto. ("まず、週末は、読売新聞社の社員向けイベントで、サイキックラバーと谷本貴義さんのヒーローソングを堪能. ")
 * Besides this listing of recordings, the Japanese Wiki article also has a list of recordings and appearances-- which, at first glance, appears to be verifiable through his homepage. Dekkappai (talk) 17:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like the newspaper mentions are passing references, so while they verify credits, they don't demonstrate notability of the subject, then. Thanks. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. --KrebMarkt 06:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright, so it meets WP:V. It is still a trivial element of a work with trivial mentions. 陣 内 Jinnai 06:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I want to be sure that it's deleted because there is not enough evidences of notability to warrant an article rather than "i'm tired of the DBZ music madness of articles". I can understand that lassitude. --KrebMarkt 07:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is not a thrilling article, but he clearly meets criterion #2 of WP:MUSIC as an artist with a single that charted nationally (and it was in the top 25). Dekimasu よ! 08:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment: Continuing investigation started yesterday Verification for "Dragon Soul" and peak ranked 23rd in Oricon singles charts. Funny that both Op & Ed reached the same rank but the Op stood 11 weeks in chart while the Ed only 6 weeks. --KrebMarkt 09:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, now we have evidence of charting as well. Yup, passes WP:MUSIC, so that's keep and add to the article all the other credits we have sources for (and check them for charting as well). —Quasirandom (talk) 14:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, I'll have to vote Keep. Without looking into what our homespun definition of "notability" for this particular subject area says, a lengthy list of credits plus evidence of hitting the charts does it for me. Dekkappai (talk) 17:51, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Please read the first sentance on that section of MUISC - "A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) may be notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:" - Just because it has been charted does not guarantee it. I still say that it is a trivial element that everything listed can be easily described within the parent article (or a similar listing of notable DBZ songs). 陣 内 Jinnai 21:18, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Reliable sources clearly exist and show notability. Edward321 (talk) 23:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree. It is clearly notable, and passes WP:MUSIC   D r e a m Focus  02:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Fairness Keep Fairness requires we assess this Afd disregarding the Extreme fanboy behavior & wiki warring around the DBZs music articles. Fact: Two singles made into the TOP 25. Fact: His songs were featured in a bunch of compilations albums (TV shows best of style) which modestly made it into the Oricon albums chart (between rank 200 & 300). Can closing admin made it clear that we are not here to clean up the trail of wreckages left behind by fanboys out of an I LIKE IT outburst. --KrebMarkt 06:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * What a rude and inappropriate thing to say. The keeps were because it appears notable.  And how exactly would someone like this have a lot of fanboys exactly?   D r e a m Focus  04:17, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That my very right as one of the contributors of this Afd who brought evidences of notability. This Afd will probably end with keep and i want to make it clear that it isn't an approval for this article creator attitude. That sort of attitude & others i like it arguments are tiring editors who become less open for constructive inputs or less willing to look for evidences of notability.
 * In my personal human imperfection, i hesitated to look for evidences of Notability for this article worse i pondered not reporting the evidences i found for the reasons mentioned above. --KrebMarkt 05:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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