Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tala maanam


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) KuroiShiroi (contribs) 20:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Tala maanam

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http://www.google.com/search?q="Tala+maanam" gives nothing so I assume its not notable or verifiable Habanero-tan (talk) 10:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  —Malcolmxl5 (talk) 12:04, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. This was tagged for speedy deletion within four minutes of creation, before the author had an opportunity to expand it or provide sources. It has now been listed at AfD within 15 hours of creation, a classic case of biting the newcomer in my view; we will be lucky if the author has not been driven away from Wikipedia. The author explains on the talkpage that "tala maanam is a simple system of measurement used in designing and construction of temples, castles and, sculpture or religious functions; to understand the iconometry of Indian sculpture, and temple design understanding of this simple system of measurement is essential.", which seems a very suitable subject for the encyclopedia. As for the Google search, this may be a transliteration issue, from Hindi to English, and sources may well be in Hindi not in English, given that this is a subject relating to India. I suggest giving the author more time. I suggest that Habanero-tan might like to collaborate with the author to build an article before making an assessment on whether or not it meets the guidelines for inclusion in the encyclopedia. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 12:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with the explanation by the previous commenter, but just allowing it to sit is not enough. Someone should encourage the user to provide references (in Hindi if neccesary). Perhaps getting some people from the Indian and Architecture WikiProjects is a good idea here. - Mgm|(talk) 15:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Tentative delete - In general, I agree with Malcolmx15, but in this case, it worries me greatly that there are only 4 Google hits for "Tala maanam", and two of them are in Wikipedia. So regardless of whether this is a hoax or not, it is simply not verifiable, unless someone can find references to this is books or other offline resources.  For now I have to recommend deleting this.  — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  00:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Tentative keep while those more familiar with this topic area are consulted. ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:39, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: It's a Sanskrit term - essentially, it refers to a set of normative rules concerning the proportions which different parts of the body should have in relation to the length of the face in representational art. The spelling adopted for this article is rather eccentric - the IAST transliteration is "tāla māna" and the usual Romanisation is "tala mana".  As you'll see, searching for "tala mana" produces a much larger number of hits on Google and Google Books.  -- Arvind (talk) 22:52, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename or merge. I've rewritten the stub based on several references. I included all the references as a way of helping someone possible expand the article someday. It might make an interesting article if expanded. The best source couldn't be added because it's a Sulekha blog/article (by a seemingly reliable source, a Dr. Gift Siromoney), and Sulekha is blacklisted from Wikipedia. It's at http://ssubbanna.sulekha.com/blog/post/2008/04/temple-architecture-devalaya-vastu-part-six-continued.htm for anyone interested. This article might best be merged into Shilpa Shastras, since a couple of sources indicate that "Talamana" (which is how it's most commonly spelled) is based on the Shilpa Shastras. Priyanath talk 03:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and a little patience please from speedy deletionists with regards to articles pertaining to the non-English language speaking cultures. AshLin (talk) 07:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination Withdrawn now that the mystery is solved. Moved to Talamana. Habanero-tan (talk) 08:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


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