Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tales of Pirates


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was NO CONSENSUS TO DELETE. There seems to be a reasonable assertion of notability made, 30,000 players and whatnot. On the other hand, verfication is an issue. On the third hand, there is some verification, and the preferred solution is to add more, not delete the article. There may not be any more 3rd-party verification available, though, although some may come along later... no strong win for either side. Herostratus 16:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Tales of Pirates

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Tagged as a CSD A7 speedy delete; contested. See Talk:Tales of Pirates for some small amount of discussion thus far. Sending it to AFD for a broader discussion. Stormie 13:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - No assertion of notability. The article has no reliable sources to verify any claims either. It fails WP:WEB and WP:SOFTWARE (turns out this ones inactive now, so I guess it's WP:N instead?), regardless of which one is more relevent. Also seems to be about 90% game guide/instruction manual material. DarkSaber2k 13:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. DarkSaber2k 13:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Quick look for references; beyond all the usual MMORPG site game listings, this looks good: Interview with Robin Zeng at IGN. Also: "IGG released Tales of Pirates" at news.mmosite.com. Now whilst I'm happy with the IGN reference, I've not come across mmosite.com before, so I'm not sure about it's reliability. Article will also need some rewriting per DarkSaber's comment on the content. Marasmusine 21:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's more like a trivial mention according to WP:WEB, as it's literally a summary of what the game has, not a non-trivial mention. DarkSaber2k 21:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Conditional delete. As of now, it qualifies for deletion under WP:N, but a concerted effort should be made if there is a possibility of it qualifying. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Definant keep it's an MMORPG which has over 30,000 players already it has fansites which makes it verible i believe you have verified the likes of Kal Online and Furcadia which are MMORPG which aren't as popular as this one. Other than that it's going to eventually if it isn't verfied this time it isn't going to go bust the game is constantly growing in poularity and the world is expanding and it will need to be created again on wikipedia why bother deleting the article when it's going to have to be remade what a waste of effort.--Jonoridge 21:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Never mind how popular it is, that isn't what asserts notability. Can you help us find another independent, reliable source for it? There must be another magazine or website review for it out there somewhere. Marasmusine 07:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * So lets get this straight, the article should be kept because lots of people play it and because the article will be needed in the future? 08:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - The 2 IGN interviews are definitely not trivial.  Another source or two would be better.  Wickethewok 03:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.