Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tales of Terror (band)


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The result was   keep. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 20:08, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Tales of Terror (band)

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Although this article has existed here for a number of years, I actually can't see how it meets any of the notability requirements as listed at WP:BAND. I can find no reliable third party sources, since the only places that seem to mention this band are blogs. The only source provided in the article itself is not even about the band, it is an article about the murder of one of the members. And while tragic, that unfortunately does not automatically confer any sort of notability to the band itself, especially since the death was completely unrelated to his membership in the group. Rorshacma (talk) 17:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep I've never heard of this band, but I've managed to find a few half-decent sources (here and here.) I'll keep looking, but I'm betting with a little digging, we could get it sufficiently referenced to keep.JoelWhy (talk) 18:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I left out the LastFm reference, but added another reference from Newsreview.com. They actually seem like a pretty big deal, as far as small, underground bands go. Supposedly were big influences on Kurt Cobain. May be something worth mentioning in the article.JoelWhy (talk) 18:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment The Midtown Monthly article seems pretty good. Even though it is a local paper, I think local papers for major cities like Sacramento are generally considered to count as reliable sources, if I'm not mistaken.  The mention in the Newsreview article seems like a pretty trivial mention of the band to me, though, but we can wait to see what other editors think about it.  Good job finding these so far, but I'll still wait to see if any other reliable sources can be found before withdrawing the nomination, since it still doesn't quite meet the criteria of having multiple, non-trivial sources.  Rorshacma (talk) 18:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment I see an editor has been pretty busy adding references to the article, and while I'm glad to see this kind of effort, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can help the article's cause. The added references seem to either come from unreliable sources (one is an angelfire site), not about the band themselves (about how a member of the band was part of several other minor bands with no mention of Tales of Terror at all), or very trivial mentions (someone mentioning having seen them once). While all of these trivial mentions together seem to show that the band truely was on the verge of becoming something notable before tragedy struck, its still questionable if they really had any lasting notability.  Rorshacma (talk) 17:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * CommentI think the book I added which documents the local punk scene is relatively significant. Last.Fm has a biography of them here. Granted, there's no Radiohead-level coverage here or anything, but the fact that they were big influences on Nirvana and Mud Honey makes me feel that the page deserves to stay.JoelWhy (talk) 18:40, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep They didn't only have influence on Mudhoney but also Green River that is considered to be the first Grunge band. Besides, if Guns N' Roses decided to practically rip off one of their songs and took a few ideas for songs from them then they really had a lasting notability. I have seen numbers of (other) shorter articles about bands or just stuff with way less references and/or significative relevance that are not deleted. DustyCoffin (talk) 17:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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