Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Talk Media News (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:02, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Just adding a note here to clarify that although Ellen Ratner, the founder of this, had a WP:BLP on Wikipedia, the article wasn't actually linking to it and thus its existence didn't get noticed by anybody while this discussion was active. Accordingly, once I discovered that it did exist, I recreated the title as a redirect to her — and of course, I would have done that right off the bat if I'd known about her BLP earlier. Bearcat (talk) 23:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

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Although this is technically a second nomination, this isn't eligible for speedy as a recreation of previously deleted content — while this certainly sounds like the same thing as the deleted article, there are conflicting history claims that make it unclear whether or not it really is. (As well, this is a five-year-old article that got moved overtop this title after the first discussion, not a newly-created article.) At any rate, regardless of whether it's the same thing or not, there's no indication being provided here that this meets WP:GNG any better than the other version did — there are just two sources here, of which one is a deadlink on an advocacy organization's blog and the other is a brief blurb in a radio industry trade newsletter. Radio networks do not get an automatic free pass over WP:NMEDIA just because they can be nominally verified as existing — they need to be the subject of substantive media coverage in reliable sources, but the sources here aren't demonstrating that. Bearcat (talk) 17:31, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 17:32, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete The radio equivalent of a white-label product; the consumer doesn't know where it's coming from, and obvious they don't even get that much attention from industry media, and they have little reach in radio syndication. Company seems dead judging from the lack of a website and Twitter being last updated a year ago.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:33, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 23:46, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:CORPDEPTH and GNG. -- HighKing ++ 15:53, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I think this page could conceivably be expanded with more information about the organization.  Eastlaw  talk ⁄ contribs 08:31, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * We don't keep poorly sourced articles just because expansion could "conceivably" be possible — it would need to be shown that the reliable sources needed to expand the article with are actually out there. But the only new source you've added to the article at all is its own self-published website about itself, which is not a notability-assisting source: notability is demonstrated by media outlets other than itself devoting their resources to producing content about it, not by self-publishing its own web presence. Bearcat (talk) 21:32, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I mainly did that because I couldn't think of anything else to post, as I do not have additional sources right now. I just think maybe we should be a little more careful about deleting an article on a company with a seat in the White House press pool. Scratch that.  I see you've redirected the article.  Fine by me. -- Eastlaw  talk ⁄ contribs 05:22, 26 July 2017 (UTC)


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