Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Talk or Walk


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Talk or Walk

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Short-lived show. Got two bits of coverage in 2001 and nothing since. The Broadcasting + Cable source is a press release. As it only aired in one market it's unlikely to be notable Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - While I don't disagree that the show was short-lived or that it only existed in one market, the standard of inclusion for a Wikipedia article is the existence of multiple reliable published sources that discuss the subject. This program was broadcast nationally, and the best argument for its deletion would be that there are no sources which discuss it, not that it was only short-lived or that the coverage of it is old. Also, the Broadcasting & Cable ref doesn't look like a press release to me, it looks like a legitimate broadcasting and cable industry news article (based on the company's Wikipedia article and the page on which the article about Talk or Walk appears)-- if it is a press release, then please indicate how this is so.  To TenPoundHammer: what could possibly have caused you to notice this article more than two years after its creation??  A loose necktie (talk) 20:04, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I found it from working backward from Scott Sternberg. The fact that all the coverage seems to come from 2001 also seems to violate WP:NOTNEWS. It got one or two blurbs of coverage at its premire and nothing more. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:28, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The review notes: "That's not the case with "Talk or Walk," a new syndicated entry from Tribune Entertainment, which almost daily slides back and forth, usually within the same show. An episode that begins as a thoughtful, reasoned debate about one of today's more controversial issues can, and often does, end up as a nasty, sloppy, embarrassing brawl in which one woman accuses another of muscling in on her boyfriend. Host Michael Baisden, a Chicago Transit driver-turned-best-selling relationship author, does his best to accommodate those extremes, but the results are often uneven. In Wednesday's show, the episode sent to critics for review, the opening segment features two seniors and longtime friends from Oklahoma City."   The article notes: "STRUGGLING relationship show "Talk or Walk" has come under fire after one of its guests filed a claim with the FCC - saying he was manipulated by the show's producers and later contemplated suicide. ... To make matters worse, Lerman's "Talk or Walk" segment has been the object of ridicule on E!'s "Talk Soup" show, which pokes fun at talk shows."   The article notes: ""Talk or Walk," is the compelling and fast-paced new reality series that combines the emotion of talk, the conflict of court shows and the fascination of a relationship series.  The one-hour, five-day-a-week series from Tribune Entertainment in association with Emmy Award-winning Scott Sternberg Productions is hosted by Michael Baisden, a nationally renowned relationship specialist and best-selling author. It premieres in national syndication on Sept. 17 and airs locally on WXIN Fox 59 at 10 a.m. ...  In the three different segments in the hour that are presented, intimate and unexpected details are revealed with a dramatic resolution that wraps up their fascinating stories. It is the resolution to each guest's situations that distinguishes "Talk or Walk" from all other daytime programs. ...  Scott Stemberg is executive producer. Tracy Mazuer is co-executive producer. Kathy Giaconia and Jacquie Jordan are supervising producers. The series is directed by Barry Glazer."   The article notes: " Baisden recently signed a deal with Tribune Broadcasting to host his long anticipated national talk show, "Talk or Walk" scheduled to air in the fall of 2001. The subject will be relationships at the turning point and brought to resolution in the show. The program will feature people from all walks of life who have reached impasses in their relationships. After listening to both sides of the story, host Michael Baisden and the studio audience will offer insightful opinions as to whether reconciliation appears possible, the featured guest then make a momentous decision - will they Talk or Walk? "   The article notes: "The one-hour, five-day-a-week series combines the emotion of talk, the conflict of court shows and the fascination of a relationship series. Produced by Tribune Entertainment, it is hosted by Michael Baisden, a nationally renowned relationship specialist and best-selling author. It will tape before a studio audience."   The article notes: "The pilot, presented by Tribune Entertainment to the station group last week, features one woman who was advised to "talk" but instead decided to "walk," much to the consternation of her spouse." </li> <li> The article notes: "The day before Tribune Entertainment's "Talk or Walk" pilot was due to shoot, the featured guests took the run-through seriously and opted to walk. ... "Talk or Walk," which has been cleared on Tribune Broadcasting stations for daytime, is one of at least six potential new firstrun relationship shows on offer at NATPE 2001, representing the biggest trend among the new crop. ... Skein is hosted by author/relationship expert Michael Baisden and features people from varied backgrounds who have reached a turning point in a relationship - whether as friends, lovers, business partners, neighbors or relatives. At show's end, the studio audience gives an opinion on whether the problems seem resolvable, and the couple decides whether to "talk" (seek a way to work it out), or "walk" (end their association completely)." </li> <li> The article notes: "Talk or Walk features people from all walks of life, who have reached a turning point in their relationship. Three twosomes are presented during each show; married or dating couples, parents, siblings, co-workers, friends, neighbors — all of whom are at impasse over some issue." </li> <li> The article notes: "This isn't the only example from "Talk or Walk" of how life can be stranger than fiction. After another show, a man called in to say one of the guests was his wife's long-estranged sister. They hadn't spoken for years and his wife wanted to tell her sister that their father was very ill." </li> <li>Less significant coverage:<ol> <li> The article notes: "In a weird hybrid of courtroom and relationship shows, author Michael Baisden hosts "Talk or Walk" (noon weekdays, WPGH, premieres Sept. 17). In this series, two people who have reached an impasse (friends, lovers, co-workers, neighbors) plead their case. Baisden and a studio audience then offer their opinion on whether reconciliation is possible." </li> <li> The article notes: ""Talk or Walk" (Monday-Friday; debuts Sept. 17 at 10 a.m. on UPN affiliate KBEJ) People from all walks of life (couples, parents and siblings, neighbors, co-workers) try to cope with problems in their relationships. Michael Baisden, a relationship specialist and author ("Never Satisfied: How and Why Men Cheat"), will listen to both sides. He and the audience then will offer opinions as to whether the twosomes can be reconciled. After listening to the input, the guests will either talk out their differences or walk away." </li> <li> The article notes: "Baisden got his first full-time hosting gig in television, not radio. In 2001, Tribune Broadcasting, an arm of the Chicago TV and newspaper company, signed him to host a syndicated show called "Talk or Walk." Couples or friends described their problems and left it to the audience to vote on whether they should end their relationship. Debuting a week after the 2001 terrorist attacks, it lasted one season." </li> <li> The article notes: "Next came a brief foray into TV as host of a show called "Talk or Walk." It premiered the week after the September 11 attacks and was canceled after a single season." </li> <li> The article notes: ""Talk or Walk" - Host Michael Baisden, the author of "Never Satisfied: How and Why Men Cheat" presides over this interpersonal circus about families, friends and lovers who fight it out and then decide whether or not to reconcile. Who do you feel more sorry for: the host, the guests or us viewers? The show airs locally on KXTU/Channel 57." </li> <li> The article notes: "The November sweeps have taken their toll on two first-run syndicated shows. Tribune Entertainment has canceled new talk/relationship series Talk or Walk after 10 weeks, and Twentieth has pulled the plug on sophomore court series Power of Attorney. Talk or Walk had been struggling, averaging a 0.7 national rating, and Power of Attorney, with an average 1.8 rating in its second season, is down 25% from last year at this time, according to Nielsen." </li> <li> The article notes: "Tribune Entertainment has declared a firm go on the production of "Talk or Walk," the company's talk strip for broadcast syndication this fall. Hosted by relationship expert Michael Baisden and exec produced by Scott Sternberg, skein has been sold to stations in markets repping 92% coverage of the United States." </li> <li> The article notes: ""Talk or Walk," hosted by author Michael Baisden, has been cleared in 154 markets on stations covering 92% of U.S. television households, including 48 of the top 50 markets, Tribune Entertainment president Dick Askin said Tuesday. The Tribune Broadcasting station group will carry the hourlong strip in top markets, including New York, Los Angeles and Chicago, while other station groups clearing the show include Raycom, Gannett Broadcasting, Sinclair Broadcast Group, Belo, Cox and Clear Channel." </li> <li> The article notes: "The holidays are not so happy for Michael Baisden, host of this season's first daytime talk casualty, Talk or Walk." </li> </ol></li></ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Talk or Walk to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 11:38, 21 May 2022 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Keep based on sources listed above. Donald D23   talk to me  14:25, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - this is plenty of sources to meet the GNG. matt91486 (talk) 15:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)


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