Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Talossan language (2 nomination)


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The result was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 19:49, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Talossan language
del. Since the first nomination Articles for deletion/Talossan language and my "Original reserch" tag no one bothered to address notability and verifiability issues. The article extlinks only taloccan websites. No independent third-party corroboration provided. Kingdom of Talossa was voted for deletion for nonnotability as well. `'mikka (t) 22:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete nn micronationcruft. Fan-1967 22:36, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete fake language from a fake nation. Now that the "nation"s article is gone, this should go too. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  23:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - assuming the fake language is no more notable than its fake nation, whose article has already been deleted, it demands the axe. --S0uj1r0 23:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Correction: I díd address your issues, although I have to admit that it wasn't much of an effort. Talossan is one of the best known artistic languages, notable especially for its huge lexicon. It is one of the very few examples of an artistic languages that has actually been learnt by numerous others (although I don't know how many people are really fluent). For the record: it is not a fake language. It would easily survive the notability test for constructed languages. But for the record: I do not believe all the political doings of the Talossan micronation are relevant in this article. &mdash;IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu?  14:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as for IJzeren Jan. --Cyclopia 00:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete vanity project. Wile E. Heresiarch 06:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The Mona Lisa is a vanity project as well. So? &mdash;IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu?  06:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete everyone read that there are only 2 fluent speakers right? Very creative, but very blatant vanity micronationcruft. --Musaabdulrashid 12:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I thought the term "vanity" implies that the article has been written, or edited, by the author of the project or someone close to the author? Or have I misread WP:VANITY? If not, then I think this is a pretty bold accusation! In the future, you should be careful throwing around such terms - please use real arguments instead! For what it is worth, I wrote the Dutch version of the article, and I have no connection whatsoever to the creator of Talossan. Yet, I believe the language is significant enough to warrant inclusion. As an aside, for a fictional language the number of speakers is completely irrelevant. &mdash;IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu?  14:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with IJzeren. Talossan language is a fairly known conlang, and the fact Kingdom of Talossa has been deleted is due mostly to the ignorance of the editors about the micronation scene. --Cyclopia 14:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * noted--Musaabdulrashid 07:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep - notable as conlangs go. DenisMoskowitz 19:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - despite claims above that many people speak this this source says only two here. BlueValour 03:14, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a conlang. Two speakers are quite a lot for a conlang. When I wrote that Talossan is a fairly known conlang, I didn't refer to the number of speakers, but to the fact that it's quite a famous conlang, mostly because it's related to a famous micronation. By the way, I'd be all for merging this article with Kingdom of Talossa, but alas this article is deleted now (again, I fear for poor knowledge of admins/editors about the subject) --Cyclopia 11:20, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep As with my protected and deleted Kingdom of Talossa (which I wrote), this article should be kept while yes, it was me who put it there, there are 2 fluent speakers, there is plenty of others, and I would be sad to see no referances to the Kingdom outside the main micronation page and my User:Kitia/Kingdom of Talossa (thanks Mangojuice!) It is not a fake language and the Kingdom is not a fake country! The language has more than 20,000 words, and you call that not notable? About every word that IJzeren Jan said. What's up with deleting almost every micronation! Kitia 15:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


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