Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tamar Nemsitsveridze (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. The one "keep" doesn't make a good argument how we have sourcing that meets WP:GNG - only WP:V, perhaps, but even that's a stretch.  Sandstein  16:32, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Tamar Nemsitsveridze
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No evidence she even won a pageant. Only source is a non-RS fan site. Not worth an article, already found on the appropriate list at Miss_Georgia_(country) Legacypac (talk) 19:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (country)-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:14, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:14, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:53, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Simply not seeing anything on a Google search even after filtering out all the social networking/non-RS pages. The best thing I found was about the director of the library of Tbilisi State University who shares her name, in a police report about stolen books. Mabalu (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:44, 18 January 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep I got a 404 error when trying to check the source in the article.  I don't know what language is used in Georgia, so there is a WP:BIAS issue with the sources, WP:IRS states that all sourcing must be considered in the context for which it is being used, there was another source provided at the previous AfD, and there are sources found through following WP:BEFORE B6 on ka.wikipedia.org.  Further, non-notability is not a topic deletion argument without the topic also being insignificant, and it is established in the nomination that this topic already exists on en.wikipedia.org.  Article needs Template:cn tags.  I'm not sure if the content contributors want to keep this as an article, but this is AfD, not article cleanup. Unscintillating (talk) 03:16, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  20:45, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - I've looked at the sources given on ka.wikipedia.org and they aren't much cop - they took me to photo collection pages and blogs, not exactly reliable sources. The Pagentopolis page is dead, and a glance at the archived pages on Wayback Machine really doesn't suggest there was ever anything significant beyond her being namechecked. With respect to Unscintillating's keep argument, I really don't see any compelling rationale for her to have a standalone article - there was FAR more coverage of her male doppelganger in relation to the book thefts. Mabalu (talk) 02:37, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up about the male doppelganger, as it alerted me to the issue when I encountered it. The photo collection was rosengurtt.co.uk, which has a dedicated page with 27 pictures of the topic. infofashion.ro in Romania has a similar page, ,.     tells the story that the first two finishers in Miss Georgia 2007 were disqualified.  Here is the bio from Miss World 2007,, which reliably sources the bio information in the article. I also started looking at some of the other contestants for Miss World 2007, and they all seem to have pages.  With 106 contestants, it doesn't work to merge this page there, and Miss Georgia (country) is not much better.  Deleting is not a valid policy option since the material is reliably sourced and everyone agrees that the topic is significant.  Unscintillating (talk) 09:06, 31 January 2016 (UTC)


 * See WP:NOPAGE for why at best we keep her name on a lists, and she fails WP:NMODEL, which answer the points above. Legacypac (talk) 02:46, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:NOPAGE is not an argument for deletion. Unscintillating (talk) 09:06, 31 January 2016 (UTC)


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