Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tammarrian Rogers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:54, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Tammarrian Rogers

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Personal coverage ain't there. One Forbes profile blurb doesn't make notability. (Also written like a fan page, but that could be fixed) -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:48, 27 March 2019 (UTC) Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:48, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Possibly Notable I agree there are issues with sourcing and the tone of the article.  I am willing to work on that, as well as look for better sources.  I have noticed that it can be challenging to find reliable sources for women in technology, so this may take some effort.  This may take a week or more, because I won't have much time for working on this in the next week, due to real-life commitments.  Rogers is a person of color and LGBTQI, and is working on issues of inclusion.  I will look for notability on those grounds more than on her tech accomplishments, which seem significant, but may not be notable on their own.  I'm new to Wikipedia, and I would like to note that the author of this article also seems to be new to Wikipedia.  While the points make in the deletion nomination are valid, the tone is not what I would hope for when discussing an article about a person who is working on inclusion. IdRatherBeAtTheBeach (talk) 15:14, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 20:30, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 20:30, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 20:30, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * This should stay open for at least a week, so if you want to try and improve the sourcing, there's time. Consider just showing the sourcing here if you want to keep it simple; it's about existence of sources, not whether they are actually incorporated into the article yet. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * keep ymmv, of course, but e.g. and, the Forbes listings, and a general feeling from google that she's well known in US tech circles, suggests to me she meets GNG. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:23, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep: There seem to be sufficient lengthy sources to justify notability.--Ipigott (talk) 07:23, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Send to Draft, user space or AFC: As much as I want to think her notable, the Forbes mention is the only one that would really go towards WP:GNG. Virgin Entrepreneur would be a reliable source, but not one that works for me towards establishing notability. 425business.com could. That brings two references.  Generally for WP:GNG, you need one or two extensive articles or at least 10 to 12 more incidental references.  Seattle Times shows nothing. Nothing appears searching The Stranger . I cannot find anything on SeattlePi.com. I do not see anything in Seattle Weekly. A google news search bring sup only 6 results. The KQED reference is incidental (which would bring my count up to 3). infoq reference would bring it up to 4. listelist brings the count up to 5, and an extra point for being outside the United States.  Going through pages and pages of Google results, Yahoo results (no references on Yahoo!News) and Twitter link search, it is hard to find more references that could be used to establish notability that is not going to be marginal.  It is possible that there are print references from local tech publications that are not online that reference here. If this was an article about a sports figure, the article would be deleted based on the paucity of sources. Because the article is on the margins, rather than deleting it, I would move off the mainspace until notability can be more easily established. Admin discretion either way because of its place straddling the line. --LauraHale (talk) 08:52, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 16:05, 4 April 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:50, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Draftify She 's head of engineering at a major company, and people at that level are often considered notable, but the references are not presently strong enough.  DGG ( talk ) 20:00, 15 April 2019 (UTC)


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