Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tanja Playner


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:43, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Tanja Playner

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Artist with no public relevance. Listed exhibitions are either art fairs or organized by her husband who owns a museum and is trying to promote her. Her article in the german wikipedia was already deleted because of these reasons. Petropawlowson (talk) 16:30, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

=> small local oldtimer museum (http://www.siegfried-marcus.at/) => gallery (http://www.artothek-freistadt.at/) => owned by her husband (http://www.paks-gallery.com/) => art fair (http://www.artshopping-expo.com/) => art fair (http://www.bcnartfair.com/) => owned by her husband (http://www.paks-gallery.com/, http://www.mamag-museum.com/) => gallery (http://www.galerie-henrietta.at/) => no mention of her on the website '''=> there is no "MOA art museum" in miami. I guess it should be MOCA (museum of contemporary art north miami http://www.mocanomi.org/). but they don't mention her on the website under "past exhibitions"''' '''=> this is probably a small local firefighter museum (http://www.feuerwehrmuseum-stflorian.at/). Maybe there were some pictures of her there? they don't mention her on the webpage but also no other art exhibitions are mentioned there.''' => owned by her husband (http://www.paks-gallery.com/) => art fair (http://www.amsterdamartfair.com/) => art fair (http://www.arthamptons.com/) => art fair (http://artexponewyork.com/) => couldn't find anything on the internet about it => art fair (http://www.mag-swiss.com/en/) => art fair (http://www.tokyoartfair.com/) '''=> no mention of her on the website. But it might be that she was part of "the mural for the peace" (http://www.ihch.org/home/the-mural-for-the-peace/). togehter with 107 other artists.''' => Probably also "the mural for the peace" => art fair (http://www.oxfordinternationalartfair.com/) => art fair (http://www.artshopping-expo.com/) => owned by her husband (http://www.paks-gallery.com/) => art fair => organized by her husband (http://www.mamag-museum.com/) => art fair (http://artexponewyork.com/) => art fair/organized by her husband (http://www.mamag-museum.com/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petropawlowson (talk • contribs) 17:32, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * This is a list of her exhibitions with comments based on online research. It shows that her exhibitions were either very small, organized by her husband or she paid for being on display (=art fair/gallery)
 * 2013–2014: Siegfried Marcus Museum (solo)
 * 2013: Galerie Artothek / Freistadt, Austria
 * 2013: Das Leben ist schön, PAKS Gallery, Austria (solo)
 * 2014: Art Salon Carrousel du Louvre, Paris
 * 2014: Barcelona International Art Fair, Casa Batllo, Antoni Gaudí Modernist Museum in Barcelona, Spain
 * 2014: Castle Hubertendorf
 * 2014: Galerie Henrietta / Austria Vienna / Exhibition "Glamour Pop Art" (solo)
 * 2014: Latino Art Museum, California, US
 * 2014: MOA Art Museum, Miami, US
 * 2014: Museum St. Florian / Exhibition "High Speed in your life" (solo)
 * 2014: PAKS Gallery (Solo Exhibition)
 * 2015: Amsterdam International Art Fair, Beurs van Berlage – Amsterdam
 * 2015: Art Hamptons, US
 * 2015: Artexpo New York
 * 2015: Austrian Armed Forces International Centre / Project "Art in the service of Peace"
 * 2015: Contemporary Art Fair Montreux, Montreux, Switzerland[7]
 * 2015: Tokyo International Art Fair, Quest Hall Harajuku[8]
 * 2015: Institute of Hispanic culture of Houston
 * 2015: International Modern Art Dubai / Parallel to Art Fair Dubai/ Alliance Francaise of Dubai, UAE
 * 2015: Oxford International Art Fair / Historic Oxford Town Hall & Museum Oxford, England
 * 2015: Carrousel du Louvre, Paris France[9]
 * 2015: PAKS Gallery, Austria (Solo Exhibition)
 * 2016: 1st Central Europe Fine Art Biennale, MAMAG Modern Art Museum, Austria
 * 2016: Artexpo New York, US
 * 2016: International Fine Art Cannes Biennale, Marriott Hotel, Cannes, Boulevard de la Croisette, France, organised by the MAMAG Modern Art Museum, Austria [10]
 * If you did online research and found coverage of all of this, you should link to the original websites/articles. We can't really use this kind of references. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 20:12, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment. I added more references. Petropawlowson (talk) 09:33, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep I agree yes she gets a little too much help from her husband, but so what? Just because her husband owns the gallery she is doing an exhibition in (which is true for less than 10% of venues listed) doesn't void the fact she did an exhibition in said gallery. If you look her up on google there are pages and pages of stuff on her, I could sit here all day listing them, its a obvious WP:GNG pass. I don't see how you can say this artist is non notable, maybe the list needs a cleanup, but that's the only fault I have here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnTombs48 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * You are right, there is nothing wrong with the fact that the museum is owned by her husband per se. But given the fact that her career is solely based on her husbands promotion it should be considered. I wanted to make clear with the commented list of venues that nearly all of her exhibitions were a.) either organized by her husband or b.) art fairs were anyone can pay to be on display. If you exclude these there is really not much left except a couple very small and local exhibitions which hardly justify a mention in a global encyclopedia.
 * The same is true for the google results. Most articles about her are hosted on her or her husbands websites (e.g. http://www.paint-art.at, http://www.pop-art-tanja-playner-art.com/, http://www.paks-gallery.com/, www.buy-pop-art-kunst-shop.com, www.about-art-magazine.com, www.modern-art-museum-gallery.com). The only coverage from a known media outlet is this article by VICE which is very critical and discusses her husband's promotion and explicitly not her art. Unfortunately the article is in german but it's already mentioned in the wiki article.
 * Please also have a look at the discussion page and the comment about conflict of interest of her husbands account (the original author of the article). Just for reference also the very detailed deletion discussion in the german wikipedia here Petropawlowson (talk) 03:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


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*Comment seems to have press coverage good and bad here, here and here and figures high in artnet's most searched  artists- in the top 50 according to artnet sources - can that be manipulated as claimed? Atlantic306 (talk) 21:37, 19 October 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:31, 21 October 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 23:36, 30 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Everything looks like the artist is trying to hard to appear famous although she is not. It's very weird that her article was deleted in the german wikipedia although she is a german speaking artist. I also think it is safe to assume that the obvious lack of discussion here indicates irrelevance. 84.112.5.152 (talk) 21:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * There is nothing more to say, that this article is a fake. Except any paid ads, this person is completley out of any scope in Austria (and the rest of the world). Please delete! --Hubertl (talk) 08:02, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete -- a vanity page on an unremarkable artist. Sources are not there to meet GNG. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:03, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * GNG means what? That you can tell us, that you know what GNG means? --Hubertl (talk) 08:11, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


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