Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tanzanian community in Greece


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 02:08, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Tanzanian community in Greece

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Insufficient notability, non-encyclopedic, promotion: this article is about a group claiming to represent the Tanzanians of Greece. However, there is no claim as to notability, and the article consists mostly of the short history of this organization. The same user has created a number of speedy-deleted or PRODded articles on Tanzanians abroad, promoting inter alia the website www.tanzaniansingreece.com. Constantine  ✍  15:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Non-notable / Promotional. It doesn't seem to establish notability.  It reminds me of the article about Jamaicans in Switzerland that was deleted not long ago.   Cocytus   [»talk«]  19:36, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * (Copied from article talk): There may be more sources to come for this article and more notability,I don't think this article can be listed for deletion because we can find similar article from the following wikipedia address [1] Many people have tried to write about the importance of their community,it's not bad to make people aware of this community as well,Greece is well known country and there are many things going on everyday,and I m sure that there are many to be mentioned in the article soon. I have seen many articles like this one,for example GREEK IN CANADA,GREEK IN AMERICA,GREEK CYPRUS,GREEK ALBANIAN,and you can find more in Greek diaspora,so they should be deleted first then we can check for the new one,the aurthor of those Articles you can find that he has used the same words,same sentences in his/her articles just he/she changes the country and tried to insert famous people in those articles for them to be valid. Originally posted by 82.47.164.107 (talk) at 17:06 on 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - this sounds like a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, which would be invalid. Also, WP:NOHARM is an argument to avoid.   Cocytus   [»talk«]  00:59, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions.  cab (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Tanzania-related deletion discussions.  cab (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions.  cab (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete It doesn't look as though this community has been written about non-trivially in reliable, independent sources. The other communities mentioned by the IP editor have been, as proven by a simple Google search or sources already cited in their articles. According to the OECD there were 402 Tanzanians in Greece in 2001 (select "Tanzania" and "Stock of foreign-born population by nationality", look at the row labelled "Greece"). The WP:NOTBIGENOUGH fallacy notwithstanding, in my experience writing these kinds of articles that's usually too small a community for any journalists or scholars to have taken serious notice of them. cab (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep- Quality is more important than Quantity to have small number of Tanzanians in Greece is not a reason not to be disclosed,The importance of mention this community is because Greece government is known for not disclose important information,you have mention the page on your point and you can see there is no any information of Migration in Greece for recent years, the thing which is well known by authority,Registration for foreigners for the secondtime was 2004 and numbers of foreigners have been registered but that information has not been disclosed and no reliable data.Data from OAED and IKA are quite different.The biggest problem people are discusing here is because of races I think there is nothing wrong to this community as others have written about GREEK-CYPROS-GREEK CANADIAN-GREEKTURKS And I cant see any notability other than mentioned Singers and actors  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.164.107 (talk) 10:23, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If you want to save this article, you have to provide sources which actually discuss Tanzanians in Greece. We don't care if there's a thousand or a million Tanzanians there, and we don't care what random websites set up by Tanzanians in Greece say about Tanzanians in Greece. We care what newspapers, books, and academic journals have said about them. And please do not remove the deletion tags from the article while this discussion is ongoing. cab (talk) 10:50, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * keep-I think you care about the number and that is why you have mentioned that there are about 500 Tanzanians in Greece,and you have provided the only source you depend(OECD)on and all in your own source you can find only GREECE is the country where there is no data of any country not only Tanzania,the last data was 1998,so the creater of the article knows exactly what he is going to explain,as the article seems new,you can just give it time,I have gone through your profile and found the same complaints made against you not once not twice,so if nothing is interesting you or you have nothing to create,do not wait for someone's Idea just read books for sometimes you can get new idea,sorry for that,the tag will still there and you will find only you oppose that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.164.107 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 12 Nov 2009 (UTC)


 * Since you have expressed your opinion once already, you don't need to continue to say "keep" at the beginning of every comment. And please sign your comments by adding ~ to the end. cab (talk) 00:08, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.