Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tara Hewitt (politician)


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Tara Hewitt (politician)

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Non notable activist. The most significant content in a reliable source is that the person gets a passing mention as the 29th most influential person in England on LGBT issues as calculated by Pink magazine. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:14, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Difficult to spot notability here.  At best a middling political activist.  As such she's gathered a few mentions in minor political websites.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 22:40, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Subject is cited in several national articles and blogs examples cited and and former vice president of the University of Liverpool Guild of Students one of the First Transgender People to be a sabbatical officer at a Russel Group University http://lgos.org/content/239163/lgos_spring_elections_2010/ Tara Hewitt Awarded National Union of Students national LGBT campaigner of the year award 2009 by Unison 188.28.170.47 (talk) 22:47, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Person is one of the view transgender people in the UK in mainstream politics at what ever level and the most high profile conservative party transgender member of the party too. Any research googling the person on line and looking at transgender peoples positions in UK politics can show this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.28.170.47 (talk) 22:50, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * while one would think that a high profile transgender member of the conservative party would attract attention, there is no reliable third party coverge of such a fact. And the Pink article linked above it not about the subject, it is just an editorial by the subject. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:57, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Pink NEWS is Europes largest LGBT dedicated news and media service and is held in high esteem for the work they produce. Tara Hewitt was labelled by them the 29th most influential person on LGBT life on twitter in 2011 by their research into the top 50 people influencing LGBT life on Twitter. This is not a passing mention but an example of the presence the subject has within the area she works and her political sphere. 94.196.187.101 (talk) 22:58, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * no, "she is the 29th on our list" is textbook "passing mention" . If it were #1, then maybe.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:00, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I have also cited Guido Fawkes leading right wing blog that is referenced by most major news papers. the blog documented Hewitts defection to Tories. If Redpenofdoom you are seriously committed to accuracy and content you almost imply Hewitt isnt Transgender or a Conservative or there is someone else more higher profile that is Transgender in the Conservative Party please can you cite evidence to that effect as no matter how small the evidence or discredited you want to put that has been cited by articles author previous editors and myself it is more than any reference to another Transgender political representative from leading political party running the UK government.... 188.31.13.40 (talk) 23:03, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually not really being 29th out of the 1000s of LGBT people on twitter and only being behind majoy celebs in Pink News' list is more than passing mention and more than any other Conservative Party activist/member/poltiician Transgender person in the UK something you have yet to show evidence to dismiss 188.31.13.40 (talk) 23:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * no offence but your jobs worth attitude and attacking people for simply not indenting too just shows you have no "in good faith" attitude to the point of editing the article your interested in the conflict not the article its self. 188.31.13.40 (talk) 23:09, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I quote from notability guidelines "disputing the notability of an article's subject. The fact that you haven't heard of something, or don't personally consider it worthy, are not criteria for deletion" The person is referenced in a variety of sources they are not an MP or a government minister however in their area there are very few Transgender people who are active in mainstream politics and their are enough references to show this person is one of the most active in the UK compared to the distinct lack of evidence or commentary on many other Mainstream political party members who are Transgender especially in the Conservative party and active within their own party structures. 188.31.13.40 (talk) 23:35, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You are selectively quoting only part and failing to read the whole guideline and my comments. I am not saying it should be deleted because I have not heard about it. I am saying it should be deleted because there is not signifcant coverage in reliable third party sources about the subject of the article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:46, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

And I have quoted several sources on here which are more than reliable if you want everything to be a national news paper to be sourced go read the sun or the telegraph there is by far enough evidence to show this person is an active political campaigner who has held office as a national officer in mainstream political party her defection to the conservatives was picked up by the UKs leading right wing blogger guido fawkes who is considered very influential within the UK. As a transgender person she is one of a few at all to be in mainstream politics playing anyrole and has shown their is no citeable evidence to demonstrate anyone of greater notability who is transgender and active within the UK conservative Party which is the current Party of Government. References have shown she was Vice President of one of the UKs leading University's Guild of Students (Russel Group University of Liverpool) was awarded national student LGBT campaigner of the year in 2009 by the National Union of Students, was invited as a guest at launch of Conservative Future women. Etc This person is not a MP a president or a Prime Minister but wikipedia is not just here for the major political figures this person has demonstrated they have a significant influence within their sphere of work whether you appreciate that or not the sources demonstrate this. 188.31.13.40 (talk) 23:53, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * would "this person" that you keep talking about in the third person happen to be you? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  23:55, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

And you make that assertion based on the fact your not aware of the individual and your obviously lack of understanding of transgender people in the UK. I am a supporter of the awareness of transgender people within public life who are often isolated and under reported why I feel so strongly about individuals who are transgender and trying to make a difference getting involved in public life such as the subject of this article. 188.31.13.40 (talk) 23:59, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * delete TRPoD has it exactly right. --Shorthate (talk) 00:42, 15 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete: A WP:TOOSOON perhaps. If she were to ever become an official Conservative MP or MEP candidate, then we may be onto something. Right now, though, I'm just not seeing the notability. Faustus37 (talk) 16:52, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Recommend keep due to the diverse nature of individual and documented achievements 188.29.121.138 (talk) 01:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * jumping to yet another IP when you have been blocked from two previous IPs for your disruptive editing is really poor form. And as a blatant WP:SOCK your repeated !votes are not going to be given any weight in the discussion. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  12:48, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers,  Riley   Huntley  14:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers,  Riley   Huntley  14:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete -- May be notable one day, but not yet. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:57, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
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