Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tara Setmayer


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The result was keep. consensus the topic is notable. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:29, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Tara Setmayer

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WP:BLP of a political commentator, whose claims of notability are not properly sourced. Of the five references here, two are primary sources that cannot be used to support notability at all, one is a YouTube clip of her being interviewed about something other than herself on a TV show, one is a blog and one is Glenn Beck's The Blaze (an inherently unreliable source that never belongs anywhere near the references section of any Wikipedia article). As always, people get Wikipedia articles by being the subject of reliable source coverage about them, not by being the speaker in a piece of media coverage about a subject other than herself, so the interview on The View doesn't constitute adequate support for notability in and of itself -- and none of the other references here count for squat, because none of them are reliable sources at all. She could certainly qualify for an article if she could actually be shown to have enough real media coverage about her to clear WP:GNG, but nothing here is so "inherently" notable as to exempt her from having to have reliable source coverage. Bearcat (talk) 21:11, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep has had regular gigs as talking head on major TV networks for some while now, so it is unsurprising that sources exist, although article needs improvement. Here, for example, she gets a short, reported profile in The Hill in a list of 50 Most Beautiful People 2010], it has details about her early career jobs as communications director for U.s. House Rep. Dana Rohrabacher.  Here:  is a search for her name in the Washington Post, here:, Politico]]. Here: she is in the Wall Street Journal in 2006: America's Next Top Pundit in a group of "nine (pundits) gaining attention."  Setmayre:  "Tara Setmayer, 31Day job: Communications director for Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R., Calif.)Claim to fame: Conservative commentary about social policies.Maybe you've heard her: On NPR, saying Clinton administration officials "don't want to face the music" on mistakes they made that may have led to Sept. 11 attacks.Punditry perspective: "You can be telegenic without being obnoxious. But if I told you how to do that, I'd be giving away my secret." This was NOT an exhaustive search, just a quick look, and it looks like teh sources exist  to support notability.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:02, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Being named in listicles isn't an "inherent" notability claim in and of itself — but neither of the listicles (The Hill and WSJ) is verifying anything about her that would confer "inherent" notability just because it was technically verified, and neither of them is substantive enough to count for anything toward passing WP:GNG. And the Politico search doesn't bring up any articles that are substantively about her, either, but just hits glancing namechecks of her existence in coverage of other things. If you're shooting for "notable because media coverage exists", then the media coverage has to go a lot deeper than just listicles and glancing namechecks. Bearcat (talk) 17:16, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep - there isn't a lot of media coverage about her, but she is a media figure in her own right. A search in Lexis Nexis gets 1200 results, mostly transcripts from her appearances as commentator, as well as a few referencing her role as a spokesperson for Congressional representatives. She has a two-page entry in Contemporary Black Biography v.130 -- which is a little ironic as the entry specifically talks about how she doesn't identify as black, but there you go. I'm disinclined to use it as a source because it is also a tertiary source, akin to an encyclopedia; but she merited inclusion there, and I think she merits here too. -Kenirwin/ (talk) 20:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: taken as a whole, the sources already cited in the article, and the sources discovered by E.M.Gregory, they push Setmayer over the bar of notability WP:N. – Lionel(talk) 07:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
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