Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tarent claim to the Kingdom of Jerusalem


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 10:06, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Tarent claim to the Kingdom of Jerusalem

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Not according to WP:OR and WP:VER

This article refers to Tarent claim to the Kingdom of Jerusalem, nevertheless I don't have found any secondary sources that are about mentioned claim. In wikipedia this is called OR, in fact, in this page we read Unsourced material obtained from a Wikipedian's personal experience, such as an unpublished eyewitness account, should not be added to articles. and Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources.

The personages who appear until Yolande Louise of Savoy belong to the Cypriot claim, but not to a supposed Tarent claim. After her, the following personages, appear either as claimants to Cyprus (and therefore also of Jerusalem) or of Naples (and therefore also of Jerusalem, across Carlos de Anjou)  ; but not about a Tarent claim.

In the article a curious affirmation is established: at that point, the claim joined the Duchy of Savoy, but they operated under two different rules of succession, and therefore their union of the Crowns was not perpetual. So, it is assumed simply that the claim to Jerusalem is separated from other kingdoms, as if Jerusalem was a real and effective title, as if such a country existed, or as if there were some organisms (as haute cour) that establised the government or the succession then. In absence of sources that affirm such thing, that is considered to be OR in wikipedia.

Therefore, according to WP:DEL, this article agrees with Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and articles that are themselves hoaxes (but not articles describing notable hoaxes), Articles for which all attempts to find reliable sources to verify them have failed, and therefore it should be deleted. Trasamundo (talk) 21:47, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - completely non-notable list of claimaints. Bearian (talk) 05:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:OR. andy (talk) 14:29, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
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