Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tatanka Means


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The result was keep.  Sandstein  09:14, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Tatanka Means

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WP:BLP of an actor, not reliably sourced as clearing WP:NACTOR. As always, actors are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they've been in stuff -- even just to pass NACTOR #1, he has to have media coverage about his performances in stuff, but the referencing here is almost entirely to IMDB, social media, YouTube, blogs and his own self-published website, which are not notability-supporting sources. There are two footnotes ("Russell Means Farewell: Son Cradles His Father on Final Journey" and "THE WEST' SHOWS WILD SIDE OF CIVILIZATION") which give a title, but fail to provide any indication of where they came from -- and while I was able to find the "Farewell" one on a Google search, it's just a short blurb about his father's funeral rather than notability-supporting coverage about Tatanka. And I can't find hide nor hair of the "Civilization" piece at all, but it's not likely to be substantive support for Tatanka's notability either: it's being used here solely to support that he once appeared in a photo with his father when he was still a baby. So even if it does actually come from a reliable source, which has not been confirmed, it would not magically get him over GNG all by itself as the best source in play if it's not substantively about him. So none of these sources get him over GNG, and nothing stated in the body text is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to get over GNG on the sources. Bearcat (talk) 20:42, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 20:42, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:03, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep He meets WP:NACTOR, with major roles in Saints & Strangers, Tiger Eyes, Into the West, More Than Frybread, Neither Wolf Nor Dog and The Son. I have edited the article, removing most of the promotional language and non-encyclopaedic content, and adding sources. There are still some facts (including awards) that are unreferenced - I will search more for sources for them. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:35, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment All of the film awards mentioned now have reliable sources. RebeccaGreen (talk) 06:04, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:37, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep He meets WP:NACTOR, with major roles. I appreciate the dilligence of RebeccaG. It serves our readers to WP:PRESERVE and WP:ATD Lightburst (talk) 20:11, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - as said above he clearly meets WP:NACTOR.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:35, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


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