Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tatyana Arntgolts


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Tatyana Arntgolts
The result was Keep Changing my mind with the additional sources. No other delete opinions so I'm closing this early.  Them From  Space  19:49, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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I haven't been able to find significant coverage of her in reliable, third-party sources to meet WP:BIO, nor does it appear that she meets the additional WP:ENT guidelines.

Since Arntgolts' fanbase is in Russia, and I can't read Russian articles, I would be open to persuasion if reliable sources were found that document her achievements.  Them From  Space  22:23, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - I found this which mentions her work with Ice Age and this where she is mentioned as part of a "Beautiful Russians" list. Unsurprisingly, Google News Russia was more useful, providing results here and here. Unfortunately, I'm not fluent with Russian but she seems to be well-known. SwisterTwister   talk  23:48, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep per meeting WP:ENT, and WP:GNG. As offered by User:SwisterTwister, Russian language sources appear to cover her quite a bit, and even such as Google translate and Babblefish show such coverage is more-than-trivial.  Lacking in English language coverage, is a far better reason to encourage translation of those many Russian language sources, but not to delete because it has not yet been done through regular editing. And though itself NOT a reason to keep, she's even on the ru.Wikipedia.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:09, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you provide any specific reliable sources that cover her in detail? I have already googled her name in Russian but I haven't found anything that passes the GNG. Lists of google results don't help any; specific sources are what is required. Also, can you tell me which of her acting roles on IMDB are significant enough to pass WP:ENT? I'm trying to keep an open mind here, being sympathetic to language bias, but I don't think your links help any. Of the sources I've looked at this interview this is the closest to what we need, but even that hardly evidences notability.  Them  From  Space  05:11, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Excellent. The lengthy 1982 interview in Люди is quite good. Information on this actress' background is found in several ЕвроСМИ articles: and we have Комсомольская правда (1)  Комсомольская правда (2)  Дни.Р  KM.RU  Комсомольская Правда в Украине  Комсомольская правда' (3)'  Комсомольская правда (4)  Комсомольская правда (5)  and many others dealing with she and her works in a something more-than-trivial manner and offering us enough sourcable information so that a decently encyclopedic article can be maintained. Even without her having English coverage in the west, I do not think her meeting WP:GNG is really at all in doubt. And as for her starring in multiple roles in multiple films and television shows... I wish to err on the side of good faith that the shows themselves have the requisite coverage in Russian to be notable enough per OUR guidelines to thus ensure her meeting WP:ENT. Will it take actual work to translate and include the sources? Sure. But per WP:NRVE... that would not in itself be a reason to delete.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q.'' 06:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, possibly Speedy Keep, as concerns by the nominator were addressed. Cavarrone (talk) 18:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Switching to keep, I'm satisfied with her notability now. I'll go ahead and close.  Them From  Space  19:46, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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