Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taxation as theft


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Consensus seems to be in favor of keeping at least some of the content. A merge proposal may continue at the article's talk page, but consensus is not toward deleting the article. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  00:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Taxation as theft

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This is not an encyclopaedic article. It's a soapbox speech dressed up with (valid) references to make it look like an article. I believe it violates WP:SOAPBOX points 1 and 2, by dint of the fact that while it appears to express a neutral point of view, the article itself is not a neutral point of view. Simon-in-sagamihara (talk) 03:30, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge. It feels like this might do better as a section in another article, in an abbreviated form. Perhaps in tax resistance? --Tim D (talk) 04:19, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unsourced original essay. Carrite (talk) 06:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Carrite, or merge to Wikiversity. --Diego Grez (talk) 15:21, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep &mdash; the POV and Debate tags are accurate; it's a badly-written article that needs a lot of help. But the idea of having a wikipedia article dedicated to this concept isn't a bad one, and merging it with another article seems more likely to clutter another article than to help the problem with this one. — (talk) 16:11, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - How about Profit as theft? Would that be an equally worthy topic for an essay article? This is a POV Trojan Horse in classical form: a title written in such a way that a POV essay emerges as an inevitable result. Carrite (talk) 16:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No because profit is not theft - profit is an indicator of the success of business etc. --96.32.181.73 (talk) 02:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge to tax resistance per Tdowling and WP:CHEAP.  AfD is not here to fix childish essays. Bearian (talk) 17:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:17, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to tax resistance, preserving the citations only. The same should go for taxation as slavery.  Both are essays that present present points of view with a veneer of neutrality.  Of course, it would be entirely appropriate to cite the arguments of those who think that taxation is theft or slavery in the articles devoted to that person, e.g., Murray Rothbard.  But the position is not so notable apart from its proponents and tax resistance in general to warrant its own article.  RJC  TalkContribs 00:03, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep no doubt this article could use some work but the concept is established and notable.Stupidstudent (talk) 03:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep as an established philosophy mentioned or held by Bastiat, Mises, Rothbard, Thoreau, Tolstoy, Williams, etc. All deletion votes are WP:SOFIXITs (of course it's not about a neutral POV, we have lots of articles about nonneutral POVs). If I were inclined, I'd merge taxation as slavery into it, and then rename as something resembling "Views opposed to taxation", which is the subhead in Tax that has a much better overview of this topic (tax as theft, aggression (slavery), anti-communist, etc.). It and the shorter slavery article (same creator) seem to have a happy 2-year history per se and as entries in the "Tax resistance" template despite their essay style. Merging to tax resistance does not fit that article's structure and I'm unclear on the resist v. protest difference to determine which of the two this philosophy represents better. JJB 02:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. This is a very well known phrase, and a suitable subject for an article. It is not the same as tax resistance, though it may sometimes be the theory behind it.    DGG ( talk ) 22:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.