Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taylor Gray (racing driver)


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 19:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Taylor Gray (racing driver)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT. Sources 1, 2, 3, 5, 7 and 9 were all published by Gray's PR team, and source 6 is essentially a reprint of one with a couple sentences added in. That leaves only sources 4 and 8, which were written by the same person on the same site. I wouldn't be opposed to draftifying if other editors want to try and take a second effort at building the page, but it's not ready for mainspace as is.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 13:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 13:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep because nine sources is enough for a published article. I hope Taylor Gray moves up the NASCAR ranks and become a young superstar.  NASCARfan0548  ↗  16:33, 25 March 2020 (UTC) On second thought, delete because he doesn't meet WP:GNG.  NASCARfan0548   ↗  00:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Literally the entire AfD rationale is explaining how those sources do not count towards notability. I hope you reconsider your decision. I have nothing against him personally but the article is not in a sufficent state for mainspace yet.  Willsome 4 29  (say hey or see my edits!) 17:26, 25 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and WP:TOOSOON. He fails WP:NMOTORSPORT as a non-professional driver. That distinction has been drawn (in the American stock car world) as racing in one of the top 3 NASCAR series. He is two rungs below that level when he races in the ARCA East tour.  Royal broil  00:06, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Change to a Draft: Thanks for the comments guys. I do understand why it was nominated for deletion and I can accept that. What I won't accept/hope doesn't happen is a complete deletion. I found all that info and I don't want it to be lost. Thank you Willsome for saying that most of the sources I put in were basically copied and pasted press releases. (Which BTW, are not inaccurate, so another reason to just draft the article and not delete it.) I didn't even notice or think that's what they were since they came from many different sites. Even though it seems like now is not the time to create his article yet (what Royalbroil mentioned), I'm thinking Taylor Gray will get/need an article eventually. Possibly it can be added back when he starts to find success in ARCA like how the Derek Griffith article was created after his performance in his East Series debut. It's a bummer that this has to happen because I put in a lot of effort/research into this article, but I'm OK with it and understand it's because of the reasons and rules you all described. Cavanaughs (talk) 04:24, 26 March 2020 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Cavanaughs (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
 * Please take a look at WP:EFFORT. SSSB (talk) 14:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete with the possibility of WP:REFUND in several years if and when he does become notable. However given that he probably won't be notable for several years I see little point in draftifing. Also we don't draftify articles on the hope that they may one day become notable. If he becomes notable go through WP:REFUND. SSSB (talk) 14:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete because it does not follow any guidelines in WP:NMOTORSPORT with the possibility of REFUND later. This person is definitely not notable right now and the sources are unreliable.--Globg (talk) 16:22, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


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