Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Technopark (Metro)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. –MuZemike 21:40, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Technopark (Metro)

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Cancelled station. Artem Karimov (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep There is plenty of evidence online (in the English language) that this railway station is already under construction and it seems generally accepted on Wikipedia that railway stations can have articles written about them. It seems it will serve an important new business district of Russia's capital city. Sionk (talk) 22:11, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Though it begs the question, why does Artem Karimov describe it as 'cancelled'?


 * Keep same reasons as Sionk --TheRico152 (talk) 00:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sionk. Not sure why ever purported station gets an article, but that clearly has been the consistent policy to date. --Legis (talk - contribs) 08:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep – "Cancelled station" rationale for deletion is false, as it's construction has not been cancelled: "Nagatino i-land will get a much-needed boost in accessibility with the construction of metro station Technopark, which will begin in 2012, according to the Moscow transport development plan."— (article) from The Moscow Times. Therefore, no valid argument for deletion exists in the nomination. Northamerica1000 (talk) 15:18, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 16:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 16:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment -- Under WP:CRYSTAL I am always dubious about articles on proposed stations that might never get built. HOwever the imminent start of construction measn that it is probably pointless to delete it now as it woul merely have to be re-created in a few months time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterkingiron (talk • contribs)
 * When it starts, then we will have an article. Not before then. Artem Karimov (talk) 15:51, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Zamoskvoretskaya Line. A station not yet in service and without significant coverage.  The redirect can be undone in the future. -- Whpq (talk) 16:23, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep It gets coverage.    D r e a m Focus  21:28, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * We are talking about Moscow Metro proposed station, not Technoparks in general. Artem Karimov (talk) 00:59, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, that's a link to search results where it is completely unclear how significant the coverage about the station is. If you can point out specifically what articles constitute the coverage you claim, that would be helpful. -- Whpq (talk) 03:33, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * A reference in the article already points to an article about this called Metro station "Technopark" in Moscow There is ample coverage you can see about this station.  Some of the coverage in the Google news archive search results I link to are about the technopark in Moscow.  You can scan through the results and easily pick those out.   D r e a m Focus  08:42, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I was not referring to the one reference in the article, I was referring to the search results. --- Whpq (talk) 11:00, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That part was for Artem, I pointing out that there is only one technopark project in Moscow, that the one we're talking about. When you click on the search results for "technopark" and "Moscow" were you unable to find even one valid reference?   D r e a m Focus  15:02, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I cannot find signficant coverage about the metro station as opposed to the Technopark development. Since this is an article about the metro station, the coverage needs to be about the metro station, and not just an incidental mention of the metro station as part of an article about the technopark. -- Whpq (talk) 15:31, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Its the same thing. The Metro station Technopark in Moscow.  Most of the results are hidden behind paywalls, so linking to them would be pointless, but you can read their summaries and find that the most recent ones are clearly about this.  We should probably find the official name for this and rename the article to clarify.    D r e a m Focus  15:48, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * They are not the same thing. A metro station is a subway stop.  A technopark is a technology oriented business park.  I've looked and found nothing that indicates that any of the articles cover the metro station. -- Whpq (talk) 15:58, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * http://www.bakutoday.net/in-january-2011-will-begin-construction-of-the-metro-station-technopark-moscow.html is coverage for the metro station, which is in Moscow, and part of the technopark. Or would they just name it technopark if it wasn't part of that?  I assumed it was located at the technopark, so both of them could just go together.  Anyway, all train stations are notable, since their schedules/activities get published regularly, and surely more than one news article about this exists, there certainly many in Russian.   D r e a m Focus  16:16, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * "all train stations are notable" would be true if it were an actual operating train station, which it isn't. And insisting there must be more coverage doesn't make it true. -- Whpq (talk) 16:28, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you believe that while one newspaper covered it in English, and there isn't even one Moscow newspaper also covering it in Russian? You only need two news sources giving it proper coverage.   D r e a m Focus  16:37, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This argument about coverage is all well and good but, as I mentioned in my opening comment, the consensus on Wikipedia is that railway stations are automatically notable (rather like secondary schools, churches etc). The available sources in the English language are useful for the English language Wikipedia and, as Dream Focus has said, quite probably means there is plenty more available in Russian which we can ask someone to help us find if necessary. The real question is whether or not this station will actually get built. The start date for public infrastructure projects often slip, but I find it hard to imagine a new business district will not have a railway/metro station. I suppose the alternative to keeping the article would be to incubate it for 3 months or so until the first sod of earth is cut. Sionk (talk) 16:56, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't put forth a !vote opf delete, I recommended redirection. And when the station actually gets built, we are likely to see more coverage, and the redirect can be undone. -- Whpq (talk) 16:59, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
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