Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ted Elliott (American football)


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The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to 1987 New Orleans Saints season. as an ATD Liz Read! Talk! 23:42, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Ted Elliott (American football)

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non-notable former NFLer who played in 3 games during the 1987 strike. no significant hits on newspapers.com. no significant hits on google. non-notable. Therapyisgood (talk) 22:47, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Not even a significant hit in the Times-Picayune (GenealogyBank). Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 23:30, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, American football,  and Minnesota. Shellwood (talk) 09:39, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I wonder if an article on 1987 New Orleans Saints replacement roster would work, that way we can merge biographies of those who we haven't found GNG-coverage for rather than just deleting them which gets rid of what is useful information in my view. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I like Beanie's suggestion of creating a place for each team's 1987 replacement players. Detroit Tigers replacement players (May 18, 1912) is a potential model, albeit in the baseball context. It could be done team-by-team (e.g., New Orleans Saints 1987 replacement players) or it could be done league-wide (e.g., 1987 National Football League replacement players). Cbl62 (talk) 15:23, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: There are 620 players in Category:National Football League replacement players. Cbl62 (talk) 15:25, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I would estimate that probably half of the replacements do not have articles, so I think a league-wide list with biographies of over 1,000 players wouldn't work. I think team-specific ones would be better, though I would only want it to be for those who played only as replacements (i.e. not getting rid of stand-alones for multi-season players who also had a decent amount of playing time as non-replacements just because for a time they were replacements). BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Of course. If a player has significance outside the 1987 replacement context, a stand-alone may still be appropriate if WP:GNG is satisfied. Cbl62 (talk) 15:35, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The correct way to treat the replacement players was a puzzler for me when I was working on the 1987 Chargers. I went with an in-article table but found it awkwardly large; I like the idea of a separate article with a table listing the full team followed by further detail on players without articles. For the record, 20 of the 50 replacement Chargers currently don't have articles.
 * I'm happy to spin the Chargers info out into a separate article. It can act as a template for the other teams. Should I call it List of 1987 San Diego Chargers replacement players, or just 1987 San Diego Chargers replacement players? I'm not sure what the definition of a list is on Wikipedia.
 * With regard to Ted Elliott himself, I can't find anything mentioning him on newspapers.com except simple rosters of players. Harper J. Cole (talk) 20:04, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know what a good title would be - 1987 San Diego Chargers replacement roster perhaps? BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:26, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I prefer "players" to "roster" but I think either is ok. Cbl62 (talk) 00:05, 21 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to 1987 New Orleans Saints season. It turns out that the roster suggested by Beanie already exists, so this article should be redirected there. Cbl62 (talk) 15:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * FWIW, in case I wasn't clear, my suggestion wasn't redirecting to a plain roster list like that, but having a stand-alone page (New Orleans Saints 1987 replacement roster) where we include biographies of all those who we haven't found GNG coverage for (similar to e.g. List of Geneva Golden Tornadoes head football coaches). BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I like your idea, but no such list exists currently, and it is therefore not a viable redirect target. It makes sense for now to redirect to the existing 1987 Saints replacement roster. Later, if someone decides to create the more enriched version, the redirect target can be adjusted. Cbl62 (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That makes sense to me. Rlendog (talk) 15:13, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


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