Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ted Yu


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The result was   delete. Flowerparty ☀ 23:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Ted Yu

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Contested WP:PROD. Individual in question fails WP:BIO --- only non-trivial source about him is a brief interview in the Hong Kong Economic Digest (經濟一週). Google "Ted Yu" "Conrad Design" gets 7 GHits. "匡正" (the Chinese name of the company he started) is a generic Chinese word, the hundreds of thousands of GHits on it don't mean anything. Creator is part of a group of probable meatpuppet single purpose accounts repeatedly making spam articles about Conrad Healthguard, Conrad Design, etc.-related topics. cab (talk) 02:36, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: Article is about a truth that Hong Kong needs support of graphic design and develop more on the corporate identity so to maintain quality design in the region. Design awards are authenticated and can be referenced. Names and links that may contribute a consideration of ad/spam have been deleted. Other designers in other wikipages also show similar infomation which stil be kept. Margarettk (talk) 06:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: Can references be provided for his list of awards and his bio?  In response to User:Margarettk's comment - whether or not Hong Kong needs support of graphic design is a matter of opinion and not a reason to create an article.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions.  cab (talk) 02:36, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 11:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 *  Comment: To respond to above comments, an encyclopedia is not a forum for advocacy. I have to remind myself of this too- " we need more foo in bar" isn't a reason or " if only more people knew" etc. You may be able to make some cases or exceptions but I have no idea what they may be. However, do you have links to various awards that are not dependent on his cite? Not sure these are notable but may be worth a look. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 16:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep: The awards and bio list stated in the article. Searched those are authenticated awards especially Vision Awards Annual Report Competition - offered by League of American Communications Professionals (LACP) is a renowned entity in the design industry. So the contents/article is worth-trusted. Pandalulu (talk) 05:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC) — Pandalulu (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Closing admin: Please see Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Conradnana (note for example the deleted contributions of Margarettk). cab (talk) 05:59, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: To review the situation of the article: (it took me a little while to figure this out, therefore this synopsis.) This article is about the founder of a design company called Conrad Design. It was mainly edited by user Margaretkk, a suspected sockpuppet of Conradnana. The latter was blocked indefinitly for spamming on June 10. The second editor who has weighed in here with a keep, Pandalulu, is a suspected sockpuppet of the same. Disregarding the block evasion and looking at the article: The claims regarding awards are unreferenced and therefore not verifiable. References to Economic Digest and idnproshop are linked to the front pages of the magazines - Economic Digest archive only goes back to 2008, corroboration is not possible. Whether the awards would establish notability would depend on the circumstances: independence, secondary coverage, competitive nature ... again, no evidence of that has been established. The LACP Vision Awards are notable - however the entry I have checked (2006 Awards to Bank of China) has the following problems: the same award is listed three times in the list, the citation lists a company (RR Donnelley Roman Financial) as the author of the cited annual report with whom Ted Yu's article does not document affiliation, and Ted Yu's name is not credited on the citation . This fails WP:V again. It is not clear that the other awards are notable at all. The argument by Margaretkk that other articles are also really bad is not a reason to keep any of them. In summary: this is not encyclopedic material and there is no indication that it could reasonably be fixed. Enki H. (talk) 02:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom & Enki. I'm not sure any company annual report design specialist is going to be notable, & these seem to be his main claims to fame. Johnbod (talk) 15:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


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