Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teddy Fresh


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 01:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Teddy Fresh

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Fails G11, A7, GNG and is promotional to say the very least. Speedy was reverted by Admin, so here's the AfD, folks... Alexandermcnabb (talk) 16:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  16:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  16:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  16:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I don't really think this article is promotional. The available coverage is mostly contained to YouTube entertainment sites such as Tubefilter and Dankanator, but there is one sigcov article on Uproxx . Definitely on the weaker end of WP:GNG. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Whilst there's no doubt the article could be improved with further citations, I agree that the article does not come across as promotional. Whilst the references are mostly contained to YouTube entertainment sites, these sites are also used for a plethora of YouTube related articles additionally it is supported by wider News sites. It's agreeable that the page is lacking in breadth, as I mentioned on the talk page. But I don't believe this means the page is worth deleting, especially when the article is already marked as a stub. The available references DO support that the company has a suitable amount of notoriety separate to that of H3H3, and so it makes sense to allow other users to build upon these foundations. The user who originally put the page up for speedy deletion was, quite frankly, being pedantic and felt like an attempt to prevent the page being expanded upon. User:Steel Centurion (talk) 13:36, 17 November 2020 (GMT)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 09:04, 24 November 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Note the previous (and ad hominem) comment was from the page's creator. Nominated for speedy, tags removed by now-indeffed editor, restored by admin. A second editor then made a speedy nomination (I was A7, they went G11) before this AfD. A YouTuber's clothing brand, sold direct or via a single retailer. This is notability? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Very mild keep Needs links to newspapers of note or others, not just yahoo~ style or blog-type websites. Would seem to be an established brand but should really be talked about in the New York Times or such to be notable here. Oaktree b (talk) 16:00, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete needs more notability to be kept up with additional sources. Eric Carr (talk) 18:31, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: I am the page's creator - To reiterate, while the article does include these Yahoo! type references, these are intended to open up the article and give it a bit more breadth. Speaking somewhat directly to User: Alexandermcnabb, is Uproxx or the Business Insider not considered a valid source? And if Tubefilter is not considered a valid source I'd like to question why it is valid in the contexts of other YouTube-based articles such as PewDiePie. I also believe that a 'single retailer', when not owned by the company themselves, does not diminish it's notability and fails to recognise the way many popular streetwear brands operate in the modern day i.e Supreme or Rip n Dip. Again, I simply believe it's worth keeping as a stub article as more references will undoubtedly become available as time goes on. Despite my years on this platform I am still a somewhat inexperienced user and so I do appreciate the feedback on this whatever the outcome for the article, thanks - Steel Centurion (talk) 06:18, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose deletion per Deletion policy. I have not done a detailed search for sources so will not comment on notability. The Teddy Fresh Wikipedia article notes, "Teddy Fresh is an American streetwear brand established by YouTuber and artist Hila Klein in October 2017." There is a clear merge target at H3H3Productions (which Hila Klein redirects to) if the article is determined to be non-notable. Cunard (talk) 00:13, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect to H3H3Productions. Blacklisteffort (talk) 23:24, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Just a note - the above editor is a now-blocked sockpuppet (not sure if that matters here or not). Regardless of that, a vote without explanation or reason isn't the most helpful. - Whisperjanes (talk) 05:23, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 02:31, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication of being notable. It is one of many hundreds of thousands of street-ware brands with a funky name. Fails WP:NCORP, WP:DEL14 and WP:DEL4.   scope_creep Talk  14:05, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:ORGDEPTH and WP:DEL4 as well as WP:SIGCOV. I don't believe this is promotional, just poorly written, can be merged with articles of related subjects.  Pro lix 💬 16:12, 7 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.