Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teens 101


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  14:49, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Teens 101

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I came across this via the AfD for the short film Perspective (short film). This initially looked pretty rough (see the pre-cleanup version here), but I was optimistic about this given that one of the performers won a Young Artist Award. I'm not familiar with the Joey Award, but it wasn't a win so that's kind of a moot point.

As I was cleaning up I noticed that one of the sources listed in the reception section was not actually a review - it was an article written during the series' production. It does look a little like it was based on a press release, but giving it the benefit of the doubt.

After cleaning the article ultimately all it had to establish notability were the YAA and the newspaper source, which is a little too light for my liking. I don't think that the YAA is enough to keep on that basis alone, nor is the newspaper source enough to really help give it that extra push. If it had an actual review then I'd be satisfied, but the article only had links to various places where material on the show was hosted. One of the links given in the reception section was a press release where someone gave a promotional blurb, also not usable for reception/notability purposes.

I tried looking for sourcing, searching in Google, Newspapers.com, and a college database, but found nothing that I could use. If someone can find something usable to help solidify notability then I'm definitely open to keeping this. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  14:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Canada. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  14:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. The Joey Award, for the record, is basically a Canadian equivalent to the Young Artist Award — but it gets absolutely no non-trivial media coverage in reliable sources to establish its notability, and thus it isn't an award that can confer automatic notability freebies on its winners or nominees if we cannot establish that the award itself is a notable one in the first place. So it's WP:GNG or bust. But five of the six footnotes here are primary sources that are not support for notability at all; the only media citation is coming from a college student newspaper rather than a GNG-worthy major newspaper like the Toronto Star or the Hamilton Spectator, so it would be acceptable for use if there were other quality sources alongside it but isn't enough all by itself if it's the only third-party media source that can be found. And even on a ProQuest search, literally all I found was one press release from its own studio (which is still an unusable primary source), one hit of "local kid does stuff" in Dylan Duff's hometown community pennysaver, and a bunch of coincidental text matches on local community youth groups dated a full decade before this series even existed. Also, this article was created by a likely WP:COI editor, as their edit history has concentrated entirely on trying to get Dylan Duff and his work into Wikipedia. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 19 May 2022 (UTC)


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