Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Television Shows Considered The Greatest Ever


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The result was Keep--Tone 14:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Television Shows Considered The Greatest Ever

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Utterly POV list. &mdash;tregoweth (talk) 03:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I think reading this discussion may be helpful before this one proceeds. Whether or not this page meets the standards of that one, I'm not sure, but since I'm sure there will be keep arguments based on that, I will ask that anybody who does so at least try to show how this page is like that one.  FrozenPurpleCube 04:02, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Title sounds POV, but article actually is neutral. Useful and well sourced information. Capmango 07:52, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 08:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - title violates guidelines, but the article is good. --Haemo 08:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - the title only violates the guidelines because Films Considered The Greatest Ever as well as the other Greatest Ever categories do the same. --User:AKR619 08:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment er... WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't really valid you know. Whsitchy 15:43, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment, this used to be a lot worse in terms of POV than it is now, and at least most of the possible entries are referenced now. However, it doesn't feel complete, or in any way conclusive - most of the entries only have one poll to backup their inclusion and I seriously wonder how notable some of the surveys and critical polls actually are. In addition, at the moment it suffers from not representing a worldwide view. I think if I was pushed, I would probably suggest weak delete. Bob talk 09:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment well if you want to add shows from other countries besides from England, Australia and the U.S, just find eligible facts from sites about shows that don't come from those three countries. User:AKR619
 * Weak delete the fact it's not some arbitrary list with OR gives it some chance, but fails WP:NOT. Whsitchy 15:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Move to People who mistakenly think they are qualified to decide for the rest of us what is the best television show ~ Infrangible 18:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that create a bit of confusion with Television Network executives ? FrozenPurpleCube 19:48, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename (I'm not sure what's the best name, though) --Itub 13:55, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete inherently POV in selection of the sourcing and compilation of the "results". Carlossuarez46 20:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Well, we got shows from America, Britian, Australia, and Japan... That's somewhat worldwide, but we can add more, I'm sure. And Bob Castle, half the films on the greatest ever list have one poll that says they're great. --Plasma Twa 2 22:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Isn't that more of a problem of the films list than a keep argument for this article, though? Also, what is considered a reputable poll - are those Channel 4 list programmes notable enough, for example? As an aside, maybe "List of poll-winnning television programmes" would solve the title issue. Is there a limit on the number of Emmy awards that permit inclusion here? Does that also include BAFTAs? Does that also include the television awards that presumably take place in most countries? Bob talk 22:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but both are in the same boat. What works for them works for this one as well. And the only reason the Emmy award ones are on here is because of their large amount of either being nominated or winning. Any show that gets 94 Emmys would more than likely be cosidered one of the best shows ever. --Plasma Twa 2 03:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Baftas are the British equivilent to the Emmys, or the Logies, there for the show with the most Baftas (note I said the show meaning out of all the genres) is eligible. User:AKR619
 * Weak Delete Maybe it can be improved, but it's not very substantive right now. It cites its sources, but there's little to alert the reader as to why a show was considered to be "great" by the magazine/website/etc. that made the choice, nor what the show was, for that matter.  TV Guide doesn't list a show as the greatest without an explanation.  When was the choice made?  What did critics believe to be the greatest show of all time when "all time" had only made it up to 1969?  Not a bad concept, but definitely room to do better.  Mandsford 01:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Perhaps it could be improved in some ways, compared to the other best ever lists. But for right now, there is no reason to delete it. Plus, it appears that most people want to keep it. DonZabu
 * Note: the above comment appears to be from an IP address (168.103.48.200) rather than a registered user and has made no contributions other than to this discussion. Bob talk 09:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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