Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Temple Emanu-El (Miami Beach, Florida) (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. The arguments that the coverage is insignificant have not been successfully refuted. I have given a low weighting to the comments saying "it's huge and beautiful" and "X, Y, and Z have visited" which are not based in policy. Stifle (talk) 13:39, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Temple Emanu-El (Miami Beach, Florida)
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Looks like a failure of WP:NBUILD and WP:GNG. Found in CAT:NN cleanup. The source currently in the article is published by the synagogue itself. This LOC item is just a photograph, the only information really about the synagogue itself is the one-sentence photo caption. I wouldn't exactly consider this brief listing to be significant coverage. This newspaper piece only mentions that a concert is being held in the building. Another brief organizational listing, this time from a chamber of commerce. Emporis just gives the address and dimensions, which isn't WP:SIGCOV either. I'm not aware of any guideline that gives houses of worship automatic notability, and the two that are applicable: WP:NBUILD and WP:GNG are not met. Hog Farm Bacon 02:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 02:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 02:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 02:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Extensive sources used in new edit including following sources, , , , , which were immediately removed and article reverted back to original source. Temple Emanu-El is definitely a notable architectural monument as well as an important piece of Miami Beach history. Avoiding deletion by making corrections but edits must not be reverted by other usersFille a la plage (talk) 02:35, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: Would be surprising if more could not be found on a temple this old and this big (given listed capacoty). Hyperbolick (talk) 06:56, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Analysis of sources: 1. (Sun-Sentinel) Good, significant coverage in a reliable source. 2.) (Jewish Virtual Library) - Only seems to mention this temple in one sentence, unless I missed something. 3.) (Syracuse University Library) - Mentions that the architect's plans are held in a source. There's no significant coverage in this source, and the blueprints would be primary sources. 4.) (Temple Emanu-El) Published by the temple, so not independent. 5.) (Jewish Journal) - Only an oblique mention, stating that the subject of that piece was a member of the temple. 6.) (Lying on the Beach - Doubtful reliability, and only coverage is a statement that someone is a member of the temple.  So the sum total of that is one source of significant coverage in reliable sources.  That's not sufficient. Hog Farm Bacon 03:17, 1 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment - reverted article back to version by User:Sphilbrick for copyvio concerns as seen here. Editor was warned as well - User talk:Fille a la plage., do not copy and paste text or images directly from other websites. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 14:18, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Copy-vio has been re-added to article by a new WP:SPA -  Isaidnoway (talk) 17:40, 1 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep: A place of worship that has hosted numerous world leaders such as Presidents Reagan and Clinton, the Dalai Lama and Desmond Tutu is Notable.--Cts499m (talk) 19:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No, see WP:NOTINHERITED ... Hog Farm Bacon 20:15, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep?: It's a huge and beautiful building - must be plenty you can say about it. ImThe IP  (talk) 21:44, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a terrible article, but the building does seem to be prominent enough and well-referenced enough to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:11, 2 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Agree with the analysis of the references by Hog Farm. I have had a look at the references, and only one gets a green light. Rabbi's doing yoga poses are are syncretism, not references. --Whiteguru (talk) 13:35, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


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