Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ten (manga)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Consensus after the relisting is clearly for keep.  DGG ( talk ) 00:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Ten (manga)

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Does not assert notability or demonstrate coverage by reliable third party sources. Prod disputed by IP. —Farix (t &#124; c) 20:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: The article under discussion here has been rescue flagged by an editor for review by the Article Rescue Squadron.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.  -- —Farix (t &#124; c) 20:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment -- Hmm, I find it hard to believe there isn't significant coverage of anything by Fukumoto in Asian language sources. The title being a very common kanji makes it hard to search for, though. Doceirias (talk) 20:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I agree that the article needs improvement, especially in the references department. Unfortunately, like Doceirias already said, is it very hard to find anything about it because of its common name. I mostly found shops selling the manga, and some blogs and review sites  about which I'm not sure if they qualify as references. Maybe a Japanese speaker may be able to find more. By the way, the Japanese Wikipedia's article doesn't cite any references either, and its only external link appears to be dead, yet the subject seems to be notable enough there. Furthermore, I think the article is notable because it first introduces Akagi. WakiMiko (talk) 19:48, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You're right, that's dashedly hard to search for: http://www.google.com/cse?cx=009114923999563836576%3A1eorkzz2gp4&q=Nobuyuki+Fukumoto+ten+manga
 * I did find http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/press-release/2010-04-08/creator-of-akagi-and-kaiji-to-visit-finland-in-june which says "Mr Fukumoto established himself with a mahjong manga Ten – Tenhoodoori no Kaidanjin in 1989 during Japan's economic boom, when the popularity of gambling manga soared." so at the very least it should be merged into an article (either Akagi or the author's). --Gwern (contribs) 21:49 6 June 2010 (GMT)
 * The dead external link in the Japanese article is to D3 Publisher. They published the Mahjong game adaptation of the manga for PS2. (Internet Archive) --Kusunose 18:08, 11 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:BK and WP:N - a minor mention in ANN alone is not significant coverage, and non-reliable sources of course cannot establish notability at all. Without actual demonstrable, verifiable coverage, claims of probably coverage also cannot make it notable as they are not actually shown to exist. As it is now, it is an unnotable book and deletion is appropriate. Recreation as a redirect to Nobuyuki Fukumoto would be appropriate if there are links to it. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 06:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 03:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - This article has not even been around for two weeks and it is already being tagged with AfD? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep' It was published for 13 years in a magazine and then reprinted in 18 volumes. It had a notable writer, Nobuyuki Fukumoto, whose other works have articles.  He went on after that to publish the prequel Akagi (manga), with the same titular character, and this got turned into 26 anime episodes.  You don't need to find reviews to tell you something is notable, you just need to think for yourself.  Insert your regular insane arguments here if you must, I honestly don't care, I'm stating my case, and hopefully no one will be discouraged from stating their opinions also.   D r e a m Focus  21:00, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per AnmaFinotera. Fails WP:BK and WP:N.    talk 23:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * week keep i'm convinced the sources are out there but i don't speak japanese... very notable international author and would at least merge the content to a list if it were too early in his career to be notableArskwad (talk) 16:02, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep for now, articles can always be tagged for AfD at a future date, I see no discussion in this article's talk page about any improvements only that it is not notable and that it needs to be deleted. I feel that sources should be looked for internationally for this notable author. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.