Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ten Ton Chicken


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 05:29, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Ten Ton Chicken

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBAND. I was unable to find any reliable sources that cover this group. W 42 20:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  W 42  20:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I have found an Allmusic biography page which establishes notability. The rest of the G. results are the usual trash like databases, streaming service links, concert sites and retail sites. I have also found an album review (although I am not convinced of the reliability of this site, it has a rather blog-like feel to me) GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 20:45, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as well as the AllMusic bio there is also a staff written album review there. Will look for more sources tomorrow, Atlantic306 (talk) 18:57, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: found this list of links to reviews, book source, this, and this, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 18:25, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC) Actually, Allmusic is a reliable source when the band has a biography and not just a listing of the trivial facts and a discography. It is also a reliable site when an album has a staff written review (user generated ones does not count). When these things aren't present (the biography page is blank, the album page is just a track listing and maybe some user reviews are there) it isn't reliable. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 09:13, 30 September 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I am not sure we have enough - I will think on this. The Allmusic bio is not an independent reliable source. But two of Atlantic's sources (The book and the State Hornet source) seem reliable and perhaps independent and more than passing mention. Lightburst (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Well, GhostDestroyer100 re: AllMusic staff bio's, FWIW, there was an AFD nomination a while back where a staff written bio was a cut and paste from the subject's website. They are unabashed in requesting and accepting promotional materials to aid them in maintaining content, and some "staff" (most are freelancers, actually--who work with minimal editorial oversight) are, to put it simply, lazy in sourcing independent references. The site is increasingly inconsistent in pursuit of their stated goal of cataloging and providing information for any and everything in the Rovi database. I think editors should treat each subject on a case-by-case basis rather than a blanket "It's an AllMusic staff article so it passes..." ShelbyMarion (talk) 16:43, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Are you sure the cut and paste wasn't the other way around? Anyway have you any sources for your criticisms of AllMusic or is it just guesswork? Atlantic306 (talk) 23:45, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:53, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Based on what I've seen, this band seems to be too provincial and therefore does not deserve a Wikipedia page. Maqdisi117 (talk) 23:16, 12 October 2020 (UTC)


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