Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tepperman's


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Other than the author who appears to have a COI, no one else supported keeping this article  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 18:31, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Tepperman's

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Borderline Criteria_for_speedy_deletion, but article has been around for a while, so posting to AfD. Ongoing WP:COI issues from WP:SPA aside, Still seems to fail WP:GNG. Gaff (talk) 20:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)  comment by nom: can somebody fix the infobox? I tried to no avail. --Gaff (talk) 21:18, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I'm the person who made the changes and I'm still editing the page. It was brought to my attention that things like the history, head office location & product offerings were incorrect so I've been updating them this afternoon. I'm new to the Wiki editing process so I apologize if I'm still learning the protocols. Its my intent to edit in accordance with the rules so please let me know what I should be doing differently. Ntepperman (talk) 20:41, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * *  Thank you for your interest in building an encyclopedia which is free of bias and self-promotion.   Since you have an obvious conflict of interest, being a member of the family, it might be best to just step back and watch the process unfold on this article.  Please see WP:COI for details on that topic.  As for my reasons for nominating the page, I cannot find reliable sources independent of the topic, to satisfy WP:GNG (general notability guidelines).  If you have such references, you could either add them to the article, the article talk page, or here at this discussion. --Gaff (talk) 20:49, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  21:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  21:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - The article doesn't only appear to fail notability, it's one huge advert for something I'd imagine most people have never even come across, given that it serves a small proportion of one Canadian province. May I suggest that should this prove to have enough 3rd party sources to prove its notability, and warrant a wikipedia article, that the writers prepare it externally first, then submit it for clearance via WP:AFC so that any niggles can be erased from the word GO.  Sorry. CharlieTheCabbie|paġna utenti| diskussjoni  23:32, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:17, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete This would make a great entry in a local history or a genealogy database. I hope that Ntepperman finds the appropriate venue for it. Unfortunately, WP is not that venue. LaMona (talk) 01:27, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Update. I've done substantial additional work to this entry over the last few days, specifically:
 * Fleshing out the company history;
 * Editing out subjective content;
 * Adding references & cited sources;
 * NOTE: My goal is not to create a "promotional" piece. Please suggest/ make further edits.

There is already plenty of precedence on Wikipedia for pages such as this one:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Furniture_retailers_of_Canada
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Furniture_retailers_of_the_United_States

As far as notability is concerned, I believe this business passes the notability test due to factors including:
 * Age: 90 years;
 * Volume: Top 75 Retailers in North America
 * Size: 350 employees
 * Market area: 2M+ population
 * Influence of related parties: includes national political candidates & major journalists; business & related parties have won numerous municipal, national & international awards & recognition; significant charitable contributions to community organizations (7 figures);

I look forward to additional feedback. I'm going to be on vacation for the next 14 days so I won't be able to respond prior to about 2/15/15.Ntepperman (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:43, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Please read carefully the Wikipedia policy on notability and corporate notability. Especially read the exception list on the corporate notability policy. The "notability test" revolves around third-party resources about the company, not a measure of the longevity or size of the company. Information about births and deaths in the family, unrelated content by members of the family about other topics (the CBC shows), and blogs are not appropriate sources. I believe that you may have sufficient sources about the company here, but the article veers off topic from the company to the family members, and it needs to stay with just one topic. Removing the elements of the article that are not about the company will make it easier to understand whether notability is met. LaMona (talk) 17:17, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * +Comment - NTepperman, you talk about there being precedence for other articles on Wikipedia - plenty of stuff exists on here which in all fairness, probably shouldn't. Similarly, we're missing loads of articles we should have.  Claiming that things should be here because other things are already here isn't that great a plan.  It's down to you to prove what you post is Wikipedia material, we merely deal with it when we don't think it is.  CharlieTheCabbie|paġna utenti| diskussjoni  23:41, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete: digging into the reference bombardment reveals a lot of stuff not relevant to this company, duplications, minor mentions, sources that are not WP:RS, etc.... fails WP:CORPDEPTH Vrac (talk) 21:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Looking at this article and its history, all I can see are WP:COI and WP:POV issues. Steel1943  (talk) 22:29, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
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