Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TeraBrite


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The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 12:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

TeraBrite

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First off, the creator of this article obviously has a COI with the band. Secondly, I'm not sure that the sources give a significant amount of coverage to the band. The article might not meet the WP:BAND criteria, and that's why I nominate this article for deletion. Third, if this article is kept, it should be cleaned up to meet encyclopedic standards and get rid of non-neutral POV. Ingadres (talk) 07:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep I disagree with this for the following reasons.

1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself.
 * The article includes sources of the following: newspaper articles (Florida Today), online versions of print media (Florida Today), and television documentaries (Conan).


 * comment: te band must be THE SUBJECT of the news articles, this isn't the case here. Sorry Ingadres (talk) 09:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

2. Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
 * "According to The International Association Of Independent Recording Artists or IAIRA, on 10/21/2010 No One Knows, by TeraBrite, had attained The Number 100 Position on at least one of the charts monitored and verified by IAIRA, making it eligible for Certification as an International 'Top 100'."

4. Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.
 * They are getting a booth at Playlist LIVE in Orlando, FL

7. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.
 * TeraBrite obviously stands out as the only two piece band from Melbourne Florida with a well known YouTube channel to be on Conan. There obviously isn't any real way to back up that kind of statement, but it is arguable true.

9. Has won or placed in a major music competition.
 * Shorty Awards: Nominated

Sprint EPIC contest: Won Conan's VD Explosion: Won 10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc.
 * Comment - neither of those are MUSIC competitions. Sorry. Ingadres (talk) 09:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Theme songs for CTFxC (Internet Killed Television), SHAYTARDS, Logan McKay, and VleraBrite

11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.
 * TeraBrite has been in rotation on American Variety Radio with Cout Lewis, WFIT-89.5 FM - Melbourne, FL, WMFE-90.7 FM - Orlando, FL, WQCS-88.9 - Ft. Pierce, FL, and has been talked about and had songs played on 107.1 WA1A.

12. Has been the subject of a half-hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network.
 * TeraBrite was on Conan for the majority of the show on Valentine's Day. Also, TeraBrite is featured every Sunday on the front page of Stickam.com where they perform their songs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yournameinink (talk • contribs) 08:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: Yournameinink (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. Ingadres (talk) 09:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - My acid test for self-promotion with bands is "check the last.fm page" - http://www.last.fm/music/TeraBrite - and the result is only 44 unique listeners, no comments. Bienfuxia (talk) 10:58, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * What kind of test is that? That makes no sense at all. TeraBrite calls themselves a YouTube band. Go look at their YouTube channel. Even their Myspace, facebook, and Twitters are completely different stories. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.238.48 (talk) 20:33, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * YouTube, Myspace, Facebook and Twitter are often tools for self-promotion. Last.fm is more relevant because it records the number of mp3 or CD plays from real people and can't so easily be bumped up for promotional purposes. Bienfuxia (talk) 01:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Well that is just a ridiculous test that might be accurate for a normal band. Like I said, TeraBrite bases everything they make and put on iTunes off of their YouTube channel. They obviously just made the Last.fm page to have one and I don't know of anyone who actually uses that site. TeraBrite are YouTube partners and get thousands of unique views and new subscribers every day on their YouTube channel from real people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yournameinink (talk • contribs) 06:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete – Rationale:
 * 1) Unreliable sources: TerabriteMusic.com, a WP:PRIMARY source affiliated with the band; YouTube videos which are also WP:PRIMARY and too closely affiliated with the band to be considered reliable; a WordPress.com blog, which fails WP:RS; CDBaby, which is user-submitted, failing WP:RS
 * 2) Slightly more reliable sources: Florida Today articles are legit, however only one article mentions the word "Terabrite" and the second article is in regards to the filmmakers, not the band ; Sprint YouTube video – the winner of the contest was Donald M., Florida, and nowhere is it written, stated, or said that the winner was TeraBrite; Shorty Awards is fine; TeamCoco.com – Related to this source is note 12 from WP:BAND: "Has been the subject of a half-hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network," to which replied above that the band appeared on the talk show Conan. However, the band was not represented on the talk show; they were not introduced as such, and they were not the subject of the show. They were both introduced separately as DJ Monopoli and Sabrina Abu-Obeid as winners of a dinner for a couple (not a band) for winning a video-making contest.
 * 3) Discography is composed entirely of redlinks and from what I can infer, none are actual disc releases, at least certainly not theme songs, theme songs for YouTube videos, or Christmas cards.
 * 4) The entirety of the article reads like a self-promotional brochure for the band, lacking completely in neutral point-of-view WP:PROMOTION –  Ker αun oςc op ia◁ galaxies  17:42, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and per Keraunoscopia. (Incidentally, "VD Explosion"? I thought VD was something you got cured of, not won...) Peridon (talk) 18:27, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment – IP user is geolocated in Winter Park, Florida (ip2location.com) and although the IP made a comment with this edit, the IP apparently edited Yournameinink's comment with this edit. If you are one and the same, please note that you can improve your accountability and increase community trust by logging in to a single account to make any and all additional comments. See WP:SOCK for more information. –  Ker αun oςc op ia◁ galaxies  22:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:47, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
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