Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terence Herdman


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The result was   delete. j⚛e deckertalk 14:58, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Terence Herdman

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Delete: Non-notable per WP:1E; also I sense some POV-pushing. Same rationale as the AFDs for Kevin Heatley and McKenna and Bowen killings. Notability not derived from victimhood. Again, there were almost 3600 deaths during the Troubles and to select a few and omit the others should not be acceptable, especially on this encyclopedia. and to select some as sufficiently notable to have their own articles is inevitabe and unavoidable for us flawed humans. This is understandable, particularly for those who may be closer to the events than others, but these instincts can't go uncountered, especially on this encyclopedia. Mantras such as "hierarchy of victimhood" and "selective condemnation", whose provenance, incidentally, I despise, are sometimes useful to acknowledge. Fringe news sources should not get any undue weight, either. But gird your loins everyone, this may get ugly. Quis separabit? 15:50, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete Unfortunatley it doesnt appear to meet notability criteria. This may be an important piece of information for the local communities but without citations and references to back this up it doesnt come up to notable status on the scale Wikipedia references Amortias (T)(C) 21:24, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Dmol (talk) 06:35, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Whilst any death is tragic, and deaths due to natural disasters and conflicts, declared or undeclared, seem particularly so, it is our policy that the subjects of articles must be notable. For this reason we do not have articles on every soldier killed in a war, every victim of a pandemic, or everyone who died in a horrific disaster, though we will probably have articles on the war, pandemic or disaster in question. We do have articles about people who have died in such circumstances, but only where those people were already notable for other reasons. Although Mr Herdman's death was a tragedy he himself was not notable. It is not our place to provide personal memorials. RomanSpa (talk) 07:52, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
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