Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terisa Greenan


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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 08:05, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Terisa Greenan

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Perhaps her web series is notable and deserves an article, but she does not. Almost all sources are about her web series, other sources I've read while searching the net only mention her tangentially. Lots of weird pagan sources were being used in an article, including one claiming she made a documentary about a certain Robert Clark Young. Brustopher (talk) 17:11, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 05:25, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * BTW, the article was created by indef banned editor Qworty, who is Robert Clark Young, as stated at this SPI page. She is not independently notable, merge to Family: the web series. Given Robert Clark Young's apparently history of socking, I'd say keep an eye out for new accounts at this Afd, as well. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 05:33, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Not independently notable or otherwise keepable, searches found links at News, Books, browsers and Highbeam but nothing compelling. SwisterTwister   talk  05:14, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep per meeting WP:BASIC. Sorry ', in my WP:BEFORE I find significant coverage of she and her work in the non-pagan Newsweek and Seattle Times and Komo News and ABC News, and WPTV and Slate Magazine and La Repubblica (Italian) and even Jezebel and Patheos to be compelling. Did you somehow not find them? And BTW... the author was not banned until 2 years after the article was created, so NOT being a new account, I will judge the topic through reasonable sourcability (none of it about Robert Clark Young), and not by the author's later issues.   Schmidt, ' Michael Q.'' 11:11, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Firstly one of your links is literally from something called The Pagan Channel, so please make sure to read more carefully before making broad statements like that. Secondly, as I noted in the nom almost all the sources you linked focus on Greenan in relation to her web series. The few others seem to mention her in passing. Hence why there is no independent notability, and it is the web series that is notable. None of these sources cover other aspects of her directing or acting career or anything like that. Brustopher (talk) 09:58, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes... one was from The Pagan Channel... showing interest in her outside of the "usual" reliable sources for a fringe advocacy of hers. So what? Though you wish to dismiss them, I do not find she or her works being otherwise spoken of directly and in detail in non-pagan reliable sources such as Newsweek and Seattle Times and Komo News and ABC News, and WPTV and Slate Magazine and La Repubblica (Italian) to somehow not meet the instructions of WP:Basic toward "multiple" less-than-substantial. Still a keep in this admin's book.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 15:19, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:13, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect for now. IMDB only lists a couple vanity projects. Not known outside the web series, for now, so redirect. DreamGuy (talk) 19:45, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry... not that WE care, but IMDB shows more than just "a couple vanity projects" and they lead to us to the coverage of she and her works in multiple reliable sources you seemed to have either ignored or not seen when offered above. WP:BASIC and WP:CREATIVE are met.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 11:10, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per the significant coverage in reliable sources provided by . The articles in Newsweek, The Seattle Times, KOMO-TV, and ABC News provide substantial coverage of the subject. She is notable for being a "poly advocate". There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Terisa Greenan to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 08:10, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, clpo13(talk) 08:00, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, Schmidt demonstrated this person meeting GNG and BASIC beyond reasonable doubt, the rest is more or less a matter of cleanup. Cavarrone  11:47, 5 December 2015 (UTC)


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