Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terrorism against Israel before 2000


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Deleted -- Cyde↔Weys 19:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Terrorism against Israel before 2000
It's one-sided Robin Hood 1212 01:54, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see what this article accomplishes that Terrorism against Israel doesn't, plus the PoV issue. Ace of Sevens 02:17, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom or merge anything that isn't already mentioned elsewhere. ENpeeOHvee 04:58, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. The underlying problem appears to be that we have lots of redundant chronological lists of that type (see below), of which some try to source their claims and list casualties on both sides, and some do not (and obviously, most have POV problems, but that's not a problem for AfD). This is probably more for a centralised discussion, but in the meantime we should just delete per WP:RS all of these lists and/or entries that do not have sources, and leave it to someone else to merge the rest into one useful list. We'll probably not destroy much information that way, as I'm sure there are advocacy groups around on both sides publishing this sort of list, which we then can use to fill (with sources!) any gaps so created. Sandstein 06:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, violates Wikipedia:NVP. Hera1187 07:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Huh? Your statement appears to make no sense. WP:NVP is a rejected policy proposal that seems to have no bearing on this issue. Sandstein 13:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing he means WP:NPOV, it's a pretty similar abbrev. --Tango 15:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete Defining these actions as "Palestinian militancy" goes against the WP:NPOV principle.  (aeropagitica)    (talk)   08:34, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Any notable acts of terrorism can be included in the main article. --Tango 15:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

The list of articles that I could find follows:
 * Terrorism against Israel before 2000
 * Terrorism against Israel in 2000
 * Terrorism against Israel in 2001
 * Terrorism against Israel in 2002
 * Terrorism against Israel in 2003
 * Terrorism against Israel in 2004
 * Terrorism against Israel in 2005
 * Terrorist attacks against Israelis in 2000
 * Terrorist attacks against Israelis in 2001
 * Terrorist attacks against Israelis in 2002
 * Terrorist attacks against Israelis in 2003
 * Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2002
 * Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2003
 * Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2004
 * Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2005
 * Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2005
 * ...and probably others that have a Palestinian POV, but I didn't search for these. Sandstein 06:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * sigh. Sad (if valid) but these should probably all be AfD candidates as too tactical in nature to be encyclopedic. It would be almost comparable to having pages called, "Road accident deaths in the U.S. in 200#". (42,884 in 2003, dwarfing anything in this little conflict.) Tragic, but most are non-notable except at the local level. &mdash; RJH (talk) 01:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed, there are just too many for them all to be notable. --Tango 12:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete as RJH says Howdoesthiswo 05:12, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * keep but change radically As I see it, this content basically should exist since they contain information not listed in the main article(s).  However, they are not articles per se, they are lists which should support the main article.  I'd suggest merging all these articles into several "List of violent incidents in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict during XXX" where XXX is one of several clearly defined timeframes.  As to POV issues, IMHO the main article Terrorism against Israel is itself inherently POV as a stanbda alone article.  Such pages MUST be clear subpages of a neutral page like Israeli-Palestinian conflict.  And Terrorism against Israel does not make this clear.  I'd suggest creating an info box used to navigate the whole conflict, thus ensuring that all pages are easily accessible from all others.  But, of course, once this is done, nothing is wrong with listing every incident.  OTOH, there is no reason to list just those incidents aginst one side.  So my vote is merge everything to Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict XXXX (creating new ones as needed).  JeffBurdges 12:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Delete it all. Going to try to dump these things into another article or a master list.  Might as well have a list of all the crimes that goes on in NYC each day.  I'm up for creating "Crimes against (race) on June 12th, 2006".  Kevin_b_er 01:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all related. LotLE × talk  06:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Dump the lot as mass duplication. One article is enough. StuffOfInterest 15:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


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