Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terrorist mass killings


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 19:23, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Terrorist mass killings

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This article combines the same term used in different sources for different meanings. For example:
 * "For lack of a better term, I refer to episodes of mass killing motivated by these goals as terrorist mass killings.Unlike many conceptions of terrorism, however, this terminology encompasses terrorist violence conducted by states, and explicitly includes such violence when it occurs during war." (Valentino, Final solutions, p. 84)
 * Although Malmquist does not define terrorist mass killings, he writes "A mass murderer as noted is one who kills three or four or more victims at one time as part of an ongoing killing event." (Malquist, Homicide, pp. 42, 45)

This opens up events such as the American bombing of Japan and the actions of Al Qaeda to be grouped together. But clearly the two writers are talking about different things. Also, while Valentino says that he is using his own terminology, Malquist uses the term as a synonym for mass murder. The article does not present a source that groups these types of killings together. Therefore violates synthesis, neologism and probably neutrality as well. TFD (talk) 17:12, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Does this user have naught better to do than follow me around nominating articles I have created for deletion? Tentontunic (talk) 17:23, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you articulate an actual rationale to keep the article? Tarc (talk) 19:19, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Apart from the fact that this is well sourced you mean? And the terrorist mass killings happen on quite a regular basis? Tentontunic (talk) 19:23, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * What subject matter can this cover that terrorism cannot? Tarc (talk) 19:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Why not give the article time to mature and find out? There is also the fact of course that mass killings by terrorists are very different in nature to single attacks. For instance, does the terrorism article cover the mass killings by the Khalistani? Or perhaps the mass killings such as the Khmer Rouge which has been described as mass terrorist killing? There are no shortage of examples of this form of terrorism. Tentontunic (talk) 21:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - There is nothing that such an article title can or would address that is not already in the terrorism page. Reads more like an intro to a bad blog entry. Tarc (talk) 17:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I was going to refrain, but it would appear that List of terrorist incidents already covers this material and subject matter sufficiently. There appears to be no criteria for "mass", nor reason/criteria to fork the current list.  Dennis Brown (talk) 17:35, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Bull dog123  22:32, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Per WP:CFORK, redundant forking should be avoided. I am also wondering how many separate articles will people manage to create from different chapters of a single Valentino's book? A chapter #4 has already became the Mass killings under Communist regimes article.--Paul Siebert (talk) 00:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-useful page with no clear definition. Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 05:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Original essay and a needless content fork of terrorism. In addition, in my view icluding mention of one or two specific organizations or incidents is a piece this short smacks of POV issues. Carrite (talk) 15:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per OR and forking concerns. --John (talk) 19:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.