Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terry Hoff


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 06:49, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Terry Hoff

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Non-notable artist, fails WP:GNG: no significant coverage to be found. Article includes a list of articles by local newspapers, but as far as I can see none of these rise above routine coverage and passing mentions. Article has been unsourced since its creation in 2008 and has never had any substantial content. Lennart97 (talk) 11:47, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  11:49, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  11:49, 6 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment leaning towards delete, since I have not been able to verify any of the sources mentioned in the article. There may indeed be SIGCOV in the listed sources in the article but enough of these would need to be verified to confirm notability. Note that the long lit of reviews was pasted into the article body from his CV, rather than added as verified and/or inline sourcing. Possibly (talk) 16:07, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete when 1 of 2 listed sources is the subject's own website there is no way that we have a passing of GNG and we should delete the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:08, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: All the press references come from this artist's website. They are mostly local exhibitions and the article does not give reliable sources that indicate general notability. Three external links to SFGate don't do this. --Whiteguru (talk) 10:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete there has been some coverage, as is clearly mentioned in the article. Much of that coverage is not available online. What we do have online is all by the same author. For an active artist, it is somewhat surprising to see that coverage pretty much stops about 15 years ago. That's possible, of course, and notability is not temporary. I've looked a bit closer at the awards; the Grand Award of the San Diego Art Institute was a pay-to exhibit juried art show, with a $2000 prize. and is not the kind of award that would satisfy WP:NARTIST, neither is  the California Discovery Gold Award, which I've only found mentions of in sources related to Hoff. The SECA Art Award at SF MOMA is an award for a local artist from a very notable institution with a modest cash prize. There are two problems; he is listed as finalist, but the award was not given in 1999 (it's biennial). The Eureka Fellowship is more indicative of notability. In the same year that Hoff received it, so did Jim Campbell, Geoffrey Chadsey, Sergio De La Torre, Lewis deSoto, Todd Hido and Stephanie Syjuco. The real problem I have with this subject is the lack of available material; I can't find anything that could sustain an article. We have almost nothing we could say about him. If he were a professional soccer player from Liechtenstein who played only one game, the AfD would have been an obvious keep, of course, but because we're writing about a visual artist, our standards are much, much higher. Vexations (talk) 23:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


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