Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terry Tales


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was DELETE. Jinian 21:45, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Terry Tales, Terry Tales 2 and Terry R. Shaw
Seems to be self-published local-interest book. Article was created by the book's author. See talk page for more details. Spondoolicks 16:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete - per nomination. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 16:37, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment the author of the books article (Terry R. Shaw) was also nominated for deletion by User:195.92.168.174 but the process wasn't completed. I completed it by changing the AfD tag to point to this discussion. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 16:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all Amazon rank over 1 million, author fails WP:BIO. Sandstein 18:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination - local-interest books that I've never actually seen in local bookstores. -- E lkman - (talk) 22:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)  I'm removing this vote and recusing myself from this discussion because I've pissed off the author.  Since I've never done a damn noteworthy thing in my life, OBVIOUSLY I'm not even qualified to participate in AfD votes or to edit an encyclopedia.  You can go ahead and vandalize my page now, since everyone else who objects to my AfD articles vandalizes my page.  -- E lkman - (talk) 02:55, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all, per nom. Just zis Guy you know? 23:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BIO and no evidence of books' notability.--Isotope23 15:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Anyone who finds the town notable enough for inclusion will find the book useful and notable as well. Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 18:36, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Although clearly the three articles should be merged and nonsense like "popular book" should be made NPOV. Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 18:37, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * My two books have sold over 5000 copies and are currently being sold by Barnes and Noble and Amazon.com. I'm being inducted into the Minnesota Rock/Country Hall of Fame in May of 2006.  When you "watchdogs" have done something this noteworthy, then go ahead and delete the articles about me.  Until then, they should be left alone. 71.16.163.148 02:28, 19 March 2006 (UTC)]]
 * I actually have done something that noteworthy, sales-wise, but I made an early decision not to give my wikipedia career over to self-documentation. Anyway, if you can bring back The Defiants and Shaw-Allen-Shaw over the current copyright problems, then we can begin to address whether your own article is notable - but until then, we have a problem. Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 16:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you prove the sold over 5000 copies claim? That would meet WP:BIO if it can be proven.--Isotope23 18:21, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd like to echo that request. If you can reference that claim, I'd be more than willing to reevaluate my position. (Which is only weak anyway.) --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 18:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Userfy and please don't bite a well-meaning newbie here. User:Torshaw made many good contributions to Minnesota articles. Yes, every one of them needs cleanup and rewritting to fit our style, but the content of these is valuable and I'd like to encourage Terry to keep adding good stuff. Jonathunder 02:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Userfy per Jonathunder. JoshuaZ 02:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and merge to Terry R. Shaw or The Defiants. I think that the case to be made here is that in aggregate Shaw merits an article.  The main grounds for inclusion is the involvement in The Defiants, which while at best barely meeting WP:MUSIC, is better evaluated through the lens of history.  The fact that they are being The Defiants had local significance prior to the ubiquity of local rock bands, and as such are rather more significant than the dozens of bands that we delete daily.  Further, though the articles themselves need copyediting, there are enough facts to build upon.  Shaw's books, despite being of local interest, have nonetheless sold in the thousands, making this more than a mere church-basement project.  The Uninvited Co., Inc. 23:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * If you have found evidence that the book has actually sold thousands of copies could you please give us a link to it here to inform our debate. --Spondoolicks 13:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure how I missed The Defiants in my trawl through User:Torshaw's edits looking for vanity articles. His other non-notable band, Shaw-Allen-Shaw got deleted a few days ago and I'm putting this one to AfD as well. --Spondoolicks 13:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.