Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tesla's role in the history of radio


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Speedy delete g7, author request. NawlinWiki 21:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Tesla's role in the history of radio
Was tagged for speedy deletion with the comment: "Single user did not act in concert with every other editor in the talk page for Marconi%27s_role_in_the_history_of_radio, created multiple pages, of which this is one." For some reason, History of radio (more information) redirects to a page on Marconi which seems counterintuitive to me. A page titled "more information" should not focus on a single individual. Since this appears to be the result of a content dispute, I bring it here, rather than leave it on CSD. No vote from me until I figure out the background of all of this. - Mgm|(talk) 09:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Very Weak keep, but remove History of radio (more information) links and point directly to relevant articles. My keep is weak, because really the involvement of these people should be mentioned in a consise manner on the main History of radio article and nowhere else. Wikipedia isn't a battleground to fight out who invented the radio. - Mgm|(talk) 09:24, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * For some background on the long-standing arguments surrounding Nikolai Tesla, see User:Hillman/Digging, Lamest edit wars,, and . Uncle G 09:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. See Requests_for_arbitration. I have tidied the History of radio (more information) links. Anthony Appleyard 09:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - since the page is now the subject of a request for arbitration and was nominated for speedy deletion by one of the involved parties. If both sides abide by the decision reached the matter should resolve itself and if necessary deletion can take place then. Yomangani talk 09:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Arb will ignore this... it is a content dispute and they don't get involved in that... so there will be no decision reached (other than the "we won't touch a content dispute" rejection of the RfArb).--Isotope23 19:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete. Mgm, if you read the history of the redirect target page, it was not focused on Marconi, but the correct topic, albeit with the wrong title.  Maybe you got to it after the editor who is singly modifying all these pages Anthony Appleyard  changed content disregarding other editor's views.  The title could not be fixed because Anthony created another page with that title and broke the history chain.  I'm attempting to fix things.  Sparkhead  10:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Though there is a question of who invented what first, this problem is common. The Newcomen Engine, the charmonium particle, each within hours, and that's off the top of my head. Not enough a reason to delete and an insight into the history of invention of a notable yet also obscure figure. Merosonox 12:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - The content already exists in Invention of Radio. Please see the talk history there to discover how this page came about.  It should be merged back.

As I edited these pages to:-
 * Keep. Please no deletion while these pages are under dispute. See Requests for arbitration.
 * Tesla's role in the history of radio was a full list of Tesla's radio work.
 * Marconi's role in the history of radio was a full list of Marconi's radio work.
 * I made those pages separate because including them in History of radio would have made History of radio too long.
 * Radio priority controversy was specifically about the radio patent and invention priority dispute.
 * My versions are in my namespace.

Anthony Appleyard 16:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment man... what a mess. First off, I strongly recommend an RfC, or mediation if that fails.  Second, All of this could be easily covered by 2 articles:  History of Radio & Invention Of Radio  This and the Marconi page could be redirects (they are cheap) or deleted as the namespaces are not such that they would be common search terms.  Radio priority controversy would be a good redirect to Invention Of Radio.  The bottom line though is that there needs to ba a total solution here and I think that is outside of the scope of this AfD... better dealt with through RfC or mediation processes.--Isotope23 19:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment To quote: "All of this could be easily covered by 2 articles: History of Radio & Invention Of Radio ". All of this was covered by those two articles until a single editor decided to go on an article move/creation spree.  That's why I requested speedy delete in the first place.  Sparkhead  19:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per Sparkhead and review of article/talk pages. The older scheme was NPOV and topically separate. The present scheme simply delves deeper and deeper into POV-pushing, which may satisfy fans of one inventor or the other, but does not serve readers. We are presenting a consensus opinion as a tertiary source, we are not a soapbox to create a favorable impression of our favorite historical figure. --Dhartung | Talk 07:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * As I edited Tesla's role in the history of radio, it was merely a full list of Tesla's radio work and said nothing about the priority dispute. Anthony Appleyard 11:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. All this matter is now in Invention of Radio. Anthony Appleyard 21:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment The author (previous comment above) of this page and myself have worked out how to merge the information here back into the appropriate History of Radio and Invention of Radio articles.  He's requested a    speedy delete so can we close this down to resolve this?  Thanks.  Sparkhead  21:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.