Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Texas A&M Hillel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Hillel International. czar 05:24, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Texas A&M Hillel

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Article fails WP:ORG and WP:GNG. There are not enough reliable, independent, in-depth sources which cover this student group in detail. User:Namiba 13:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. User:Namiba 13:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. User:Namiba 13:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. User:Namiba 13:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Very weak keep. "oldest Hillel Foundation organization in the United States" is a specific claim of notability of this among the many student-organizations on this campus and the many campus branches of this parent organization. However, I don't think there is enough encyc about this article to ever be more than a stub. There's lots here now that should probably be removed as unencyclopediac details at best, promotional fluff at worst. Some of the independent refs are mere passing mention and most of the refs are not independent (and only support in-my-view-unencyc content anyway). Potential merge targets are Texas A&M University and History of the Jews in Brazos County, Texas, with redirect to...probably the school and cross-links between those two targets. DMacks (talk) 14:14, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Article-history note: Was recently PRODded by Namiba, which I disputed because there was the claim of apparent notability sufficient to merit a full discussion. DMacks (talk) 16:20, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep or Redirect to Hillel International Most such campus organizations do not merit a standalone article, but the claim as oldest Hillel organization is a credible claim of notability, but the scope and breadth of sourcing need work. If not kept, I would redirect to the article for the parent organization (Hillel International), where the Texas A&M "chapter" is already listed, with a source. Alansohn (talk) 14:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This article has 27 sources, and even if 9 are from the organization' website, that still leaves 18 sources. That says something, IMHO. If not kept, then redirect to Hillel International as suggested by Alansohn. Debresser (talk) 23:26, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There is one independent source on the page which covers the group in any type of detail. The number of self-published or university-published sources does not contribute to notability per WP:GNG.--User:Namiba 13:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Being the oldest of something isn't enough if reliable sources have not chosen to reward this claim to fame with any coverage. We could mention in the Hillel article (or in Judaism in the US, in Texas?, whatever) that this was the first one founded, but if the independent reliable sources aren't there, they aren't there. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 04:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  qedk ( t  愛  c ) 08:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Hillel International per WP:NOTDIRECTORY, WP:ORGCRIT and WP:REDUNDANTFORK. There is too much primary and not nearly enough reliable, independent significant coverage to merit a WP:SPINOFF article. The basic outline can be readily explained in the parent. StonyBrook (talk) 21:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect as suggested above. I agree with the editors who note there is not enough third-party coverage to justify a standalone article. -- Kinu t/c 02:12, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.