Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Texas A&M Wind Symphony


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Keep, any possible merger can be proposed in the normal way (NAC). RMHED  19:17, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Texas A&amp;M Wind Symphony

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This article is about a student organization at a university. There are not enough independent reliable sources to justify an article on this topic. Karanacs (talk) 15:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:37, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to Texas A&M University.  Grsz 11  04:27, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. Without the main editor of this article (Kungaloosh; who is the main editor of the article on the conductor of this band, and not much else, and who has not edited in a while) to help, we may have trouble finding multiple articles from reliable sources other than school papers.  They're not there yet. I'll leave word at the school page. --Epeefleche (talk) 05:52, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to Texas A&M University. Racepacket (talk) 11:58, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I wrote a large portion of the Fightin' Texas Aggie Band article (A featured article on the main page) and can see the possibility of this organization requiring a separate article. The Texas A&M article is already pretty large and has many additional articles due to WP:SUMMARY. It has enough sources independent of the University to delve into such an article and it will populate over time. I recognize that it is a pretty weak article and many google sources are from the local area, but they were invited to play at Carnegie Hall so that establishes some notability. In short, the A&M article is pretty full and adding this to that article would only serve to provide precedent for adding every student organization. I can certainly see merging this into a new article about the musical programs at Texas A&M. Other thoughts on where to merge it? — BQZip01 —  talk 22:37, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. If as you suggest (I believe you are suggesting, at least) this has or can have two or more appropriate non-student articles as sources, I would support a keep as that would meet the WP:BAND criteria.  Otherwise, a merge as you suggest to a new article on musical programs at Texas A&M sounds like an alternative (assuming that that more robust article meets one of the 12 WP:BAND criteria).--Epeefleche (talk) 19:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe they can have more. I'll see what I can find. — BQZip01 —  talk 22:03, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have to go, but a quick google search reveals:


 * Keep I go to Umass Lowell, and the orchestra here could get its own article. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 16:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I believe the topic of this article clearly passes WP:LOCALFAME and its international touring and performance at Carnegie Hall is more than sufficient notability IMO. It's recordings are also listed in both Allmusic database and the FreeDB database. In addition, I do not believe this article could be neatly merged into either the main TAMU article or the Aggie Band article. However, if it is determined to fail notability per this discussion, I would recommend saving the information in a merged combination article on Texas A&M music programs per BQZip01's suggestion. On a separate note, this article does have an issue with several dead links in the article citations that need to be repaired. Additional source material should be searched for, especially in regards to reviews of the foreign tours which most likely exist, but these may not be easily obtained on-line or due to language differences. CrazyPaco (talk) 19:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: The Aggie Band is not the same as this institution as it is part of the Corps of Cadets. The wind symphony is open to all students. It's not so common among Universities and I could have been more clear; just so there's no later confusion. — BQZip01 —  talk 19:36, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.