Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Texas Forensic Association


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. W.marsh 13:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Texas Forensic Association
Delete Organization is not notable except by association with the NFL (which does not make it deserving of a page). Article is filled with weasel words, industry jargon, lists, and specific information (like scoring systems) that are unencylopedic. Despite its claim of being one of the most successful organizations in the United States it has just over 500 google hits. pm_shef 00:03, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Also see Articles for deletion/Texas Forensic Association Articles for deletion/PHSSL Articles for deletion/Ohio High School Speech League Articles for deletion/California High School Speech Association Articles for deletion/Florida Forensic League, Inc. Articles for deletion/Wisconsin Forensics Coaches Association pm_shef 00:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom; no independent references. Melchoir 01:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. —C.Fred (talk) 02:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. Well written and formatted, so that's a star for the writer, but it lacks notability. Keep. After looking at the series of AfD request for these debating socieites, I have to change my opinion. Debating societies are an important part of high school life comparable to sports and spelling bees. These articles are not just vanity pages for local high schools but are generally well-ogranized collaborative efforts to describe the functioning of debating societies in large US states (California, Texas, Ohio, etc.). They might not seem too notable to a 45-year-old guy in Chicago (me!) but there are other standards of notability that they meet. Some need more work than others, but this one for Texas is pretty well advanced.  Inter lingua  talk 03:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment It's important to note that besides the first paragraph of the article, the rest of it is simply a "how to guide" of debate in texas. Something more appropriate for their website than an encyclopedia - pm_shef 03:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep Yes, it's a stub, but state forensic leagues are not mere chapters. They have hundreds of events each year, thousands of participants and are the main way in which NFL members gain experience. It is like saying we should not have a New York Mets page, since we have one for Major League Baseball. In addition, state leagues sponsor different events than the NFL does. These would be lost if there were not state level pages. In addition, there is more to this page already than there is for most of the High School pages in Wikipedia. Sure, the page needs work, but a lot of our pages do. See also the discussions at Talk:National Forensic League, where active encouragement has been given to developing State league pages. --CTSWyneken 13:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Vegaswikian 02:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.